Interpretation?! It says it! That's it. You base all your beliefs on interpretation from a book that is supposed to be the word of god.

You don't like my logic? So sorry my logic proves Christianity a scam. So you like the idea that MAN "created" evil? Really? Do you?

Don't be a dumbass, dumbass...

You're looking at an English interpretation of Hebrew text and claiming "It says it!"... So much for the scientific method.
I have NEVER said it was the "Word of God", and I certainly don't base all of beliefs on a book, so you're going to have to build another strawman...
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Quote:I say it should be "trouble, calamity"

Is 45, 7

[quote]American King James Version
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

American Standard Version
I form the light, and create darkness; I make peace, and create evil. I am Jehovah, that doeth all these things.

Douay-Rheims Bible
I form the light, and create darkness, I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord that do all these things.

Darby Bible Translation
forming the light and creating darkness, making peace and creating evil: I, Jehovah, do all these things.

English Revised Version
I form the light, and create darkness; I make peace, and create evil; I am the LORD, that doeth all these things.

Webster's Bible Translation
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

Young's Literal Translation
Forming light, and preparing darkness, Making peace, and preparing evil, I am Jehovah, doing all these things.'

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.


Many people who translate this horseshit for a living say you are wrong.

(December 7, 2012 at 9:27 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Many people who translate this horseshit for a living say you are wrong.

I don't care what they say, they're not here... Beside that, I think for myself.
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And you think evil was "created" by man... Or even at all? That sounds to me like a belief based on years and years of listening to and believing other people's bullshit.

(December 7, 2012 at 10:06 pm)catfish Wrote:

(December 7, 2012 at 9:27 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Many people who translate this horseshit for a living say you are wrong.

I don't care what they say, they're not here... Beside that, I think for myself.
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So do I.

I think they are right and you are nuts.

(December 7, 2012 at 10:06 pm)catfish Wrote:

(December 7, 2012 at 9:27 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Many people who translate this horseshit for a living say you are wrong.

I don't care what they say, they're not here... Beside that, I think for myself.
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And they're not real christians are they Catfish

(December 8, 2012 at 12:17 am)Zen Badger Wrote:

(December 7, 2012 at 10:06 pm)catfish Wrote: I don't care what they say, they're not here... Beside that, I think for myself.
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And they're not real christians are they Catfish

That sounds more like your lame game and not mine, now doesn't it???
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Isaiah 45:7

New International Version (NIV)

7 I form the light and create darkness,
I bring prosperity and create disaster;
I, the Lord, do all these things.

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catfish Wrote:I have NEVER said it was the "Word of God", and I certainly don't base all of beliefs on a book, so you're going to have to build another strawman...

I still am having trouble thinking of a Christian who does not base all of his/her beliefs on the bible.

Regardless, to the original point; Satan decieved Adam and Eve, so either god created evil in Satan, or Satan created it and imparted it into humans. Of course, god is omnipotent, so if he knew Satan would create evil but he created him anyway, does that count as creating evil? I think a much better way of looking at it would be 'sin'. Satan caused Adam and Eve to create sin, but I don't think 'sin' is a good way to judge right from wrong, considering slavery is okay, among a number of other things.

(December 12, 2012 at 11:17 pm)Darkstar Wrote:

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Isaiah 45:7

New International Version (NIV)

7 I form the light and create darkness,
I bring prosperity and create disaster;
I, the Lord, do all these things.

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catfish Wrote:I have NEVER said it was the "Word of God", and I certainly don't base all of beliefs on a book, so you're going to have to build another strawman...

I still am having trouble thinking of a Christian who does not base all of his/her beliefs on the bible.

Regardless, to the original point; Satan decieved Adam and Eve, so either god created evil in Satan, or Satan created it and imparted it into humans. Of course, god is omnipotent, so if he knew Satan would create evil but he created him anyway, does that count as creating evil? I think a much better way of looking at it would be 'sin'. Satan caused Adam and Eve to create sin, but I don't think 'sin' is a good way to judge right from wrong, considering slavery is okay, among a number of other things.

So you think "slavery" is OK?
Where does that notion come from?
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