I really don't care who wrote what or why. The bottom line is that people did, and people wrote superstitious crap and fight and kill over CLEAR FICTION.

I do care that people miss the fact from the first writings of the god character of Abraham, to the first canonized bible took over 1,000 years and 40 authors with books left out. The concept of a "all powerful" god seems absurd considering he can(according to believers) "poof" the entire universe and our planet into existence in the blink of an eye, but needs mere mortals to write a book.

Your long winded tripe is a distraction away from reality. It is a book of fiction. A book of myth. It was written by unscientific ignorant tribal people. All cultures of antiquity, allegedly peaceful or not, invented mythological gods that reflected the social memes that culture centered itself around.

Aristotle, "If horses had gods their gods would look like horses".

Buddhists do this too. Tibetan Buddhists claim the same persecution complex as early late Hebrews and early Christians did. But most Asian nations in that region have a Buddhist majority, and in Buddhism's history in that region, there have still been oppression and conflict.

Superstition is superstition, it does not matter if the myth itself is painted as Rosy or evil. Horus was not a real super hero out to protect the Egyptians and he had no arch rival named Set who was the evil villain.

There is no Muslim heaven or hell. Their is no Allah vs Satan, and their is no Jesus vs Satan.

You're attempt to drag us into your Yellow Brick Road comic book wont work simply because you want to claim an evil outsider rewrote your comic book. It was a comic book when the first word was written, and it still is a comic book no matter how many times it has changed over the past.

You "They twisted the words of Spiderman and DC comics sold the rights to Spiderman to Marvel comics".

That is all you are doing.

What on earth are you smoking? The Jews were influenced by the people around them as much as any other culture - there's no conspiracy involved. Quit anomaly hunting.

My question would be "How?" I mean people live short lives and this would require a multiple generation conspiracy that there isn't really any evidence for. Why do people always have these conspiracies involving the Jews?

No one knows what we do behind closed doors with our devious, devious dreidels and bland matzo-based food.

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(No, seriously, ignorance is the root of all fear. Most conspiracy theorists only get enough information to support their claim that they make in ignorance, and it wasn't so long ago that Jews were terribly insular. It's easy to blame a group that marries into itself and has stranger customs and strange ways of dressing)

Quote:Modern scholarship has identified that Rome manipulated the Jews into rewriting their scriptures and turn their militant God into a pacifist God

Whoa, there. Atwill's fantasies are crap.

The Romans solved the jewish problem the way they usually solved problems: By killing people, burning down the whole fucking country and telling the survivors to get the fuck out.

The Romans had no trouble with "the jews" after the bar Kochba revolt was put down. They did not need to waste their time getting them to re-write their fucking scriptures.

How droll. Believers read what I put and accuse me of trying to kill their God and atheists read the same thing and think I want to lead them to God.

No one is too bright in either camp it seems.

Regards
DL

(December 19, 2012 at 12:54 pm)Greatest I am Wrote: How droll. Believers read what I put and accuse me of trying to kill their God and atheists read the same thing and think I want to lead them to God.

No one is too bright in either camp it seems.

Regards
DL

Stop it asshole! "I am not trying to convert you" is the first red flag a con man uses.

Used car salesman, "Yea, those other dealers sell crap. I am not like the others".

Look, you wrote this because you have a belief and we don't care where that belief is coming from. We would not care if you simply want to "discuss", which is a lie, but fine.

What matters no mater what your fucking motive is are facts. Since you, nor Muslims or Jews or Hindus, have any lick of evidence for sky fairies, I'd suggest you stop trying to convince yourself that you need a sky fairy which is what you are doing.

I said nothing of the sort, neither did anyone else.

I personally think you're either taking drugs or incredibly delusional.

(December 19, 2012 at 11:21 am)Minimalist Wrote:

Quote:Modern scholarship has identified that Rome manipulated the Jews into rewriting their scriptures and turn their militant God into a pacifist God

Whoa, there. Atwill's fantasies are crap.

The Romans solved the jewish problem the way they usually solved problems: By killing people, burning down the whole fucking country and telling the survivors to get the fuck out.

The Romans had no trouble with "the jews" after the bar Kochba revolt was put down. They did not need to waste their time getting them to re-write their fucking scriptures.

Way to play into his superstitious mind.

IT DOES NOT MATTER.

You just got pulled into his Yellow Brick Road, not that you are a believer now, but you got pulled into it, for two reasons.

1. To allow him to continue the distraction.

2. To allow him to act as a billboard.

I already pointed out why we should not get distracted by such tactics.

His argument is that the persecution and twisting of the "original" "true" words of the "real" intent of God's word was corrupted.

My point is not to allow this tactic to distract you from the fact that neither the Roman gods or the Jewish god or a Hindu god or Mormon god or even the new age bullshit of the universe being a thinking thing, is the real issue.

The gods of Abraham are merely spinoffs of prior cultures. Just like Coke and Pepsi compete with soda flavors.

He wants the reader stuck in the trap of "Coke is the first beverage because the can is red".

Crap is crap and myth is myth, no matter who wrote the first word of ANY religion, polytheist or monotheist, born out of antiquity or even recently invented new age bullshit.