When I was in college I was involved with just about every Christian group I could find. Mainly because there were so many single women in those groups.

We would go on these "retreats". Christians have these camps with bunk houses, dining hall, meeting areas, basketball and volleyball courts, soccer fields etc.

And they would usually have two speakers.

The talks about "sex" were some of the most bizarre talks I've ever been too. They liked to talk about the evils of masturbation. Not sex! Masturbation.. And they suggested ridiculous and bizarre things like holding each other accountable. They said that most guys masturbated in the shower, so we should always shower with the bathroom door open so that we would not be tempted to masturbate..

They really liked the idea of "holding each other accountable". And one guy said that marriage should not be legalized prostitution -- and that was all that it was if you married somebody that you were overly sexually attracted too. I wanted to tell him "NO! It is only legalized prostitution if you marry somebody only for their money!!!" But I bit my tongue. He told the story of his friend breaking up a relationship that he had been in because his friend could see that they were overly physically attracted to each other..

The really crazy thing is that we were assigned beds in bunkhouses. And when I would first get to the camp the bunkhouse would be full of people. But at night there would rarely be more than one or two of us actually sleeping in the bunkhouse. I was told that the other guys were off with their girlfriends. I don't know where... but they certainly weren't in the bunkhouse. But everybody would show up in the morning! At least they weren't masturbating!

I guess that I was one of the losers there because my girlfriends never seemed to be the wild type. Except for one. And I was always the confused Christian guy who was still a "virgin". Hugging without our shirts on and sucking on her nipples wasn't really sex. And cuddling in bed with all of our clothes off wasn't really sex. And hand jobs and blow jobs weren't really "sex"... And oral sex wasn't really "sex"........ And seeing 'how it fix' and maybe pumping a little -- but not reaching orgasm, wasn't really "sex".........

I am just lucky that I didn't get any of those girls pregnant!

Oh and remember God is omniscient so he watches you masturbate, and get blow jobs, and watches you even shit and pee.

God sounds like a perv.

(December 21, 2012 at 10:26 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Oh and remember God is omniscient so he watches you masturbate, and get blow jobs, and watches you even shit and pee.

It's cool. I'm into that.

(December 21, 2012 at 10:32 pm)Minimalist Wrote: God sounds like a perv.

That's what I'm thinking.. It didn't seem like the Christians had a healthy view on relationships and sex.

And of course people will figure out creative ways around the 'rules'.

But look at the Catholic church and the problem with the sexually frustrated Priests..

(December 21, 2012 at 10:34 pm)Annik Wrote:

(December 21, 2012 at 10:26 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Oh and remember God is omniscient so he watches you masturbate, and get blow jobs, and watches you even shit and pee.

It's cool. I'm into that.

Um, even if it is by force because you cant tell God not to look when you don't want him to? You cant tell me there is never a time in your life where you don't want privacy, under an all seeing god, you never have privacy.

(December 21, 2012 at 11:06 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Um, even if it is by force because you cant tell God not to look when you don't want him to? You cant tell me there is never a time in your life where you don't want privacy, under an all seeing god, you never have privacy.

I think you might be incapable of recognizing jokes.

(December 22, 2012 at 1:36 am)Annik Wrote:

(December 21, 2012 at 11:06 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Um, even if it is by force because you cant tell God not to look when you don't want him to? You cant tell me there is never a time in your life where you don't want privacy, under an all seeing god, you never have privacy.

I think you might be incapable of recognizing jokes.

Um yea I got it, just making a point that the logic the theist might not be thinking of.

Sorry but maybe more emotocons on all our parts might help.

I doubt theists are going to follow down the path of God watching them as sexually attractive. Lighten up, buddy.

I'm not sure why civilization has been so uptight about sex for so many thousands of years. Can you imagine if we were as uptight about food as were we sex? Saintly eaters would be anorexic, and would eat only in private. Don't you dare taste the food! You have to swallow it so it misses your tongue. Otherwise you're fulfilling the carnal desires of the flesh. Oh no! You better just cover your tongue up to be sure.