(February 9, 2013 at 4:23 am)Zone Wrote: If that had nothing to do with true atheism then a Christian could just say that you're examples have nothing to do with the true message of Christ.

"True atheism"? Atheism = lack of belief in god

Sure, Stalin was a "true atheist" but that doesn't mean he killed because he was an atheist. There is not atheist doctrine that says you should kill those who have different beliefs (or any atheist doctrine at all, for that matter). Not so with religion.


Disclaimer: I didn't watch the video and the above does not necessarily have any particular bearing on its contents.

Haven't looked to see if the story has been posted here yet but some poor woman in Papa New Guini(sp) was burned a live for being accused of being a witch, a day or two ago.

(February 9, 2013 at 3:46 pm)Darkstar Wrote:

(February 9, 2013 at 4:23 am)Zone Wrote: If that had nothing to do with true atheism then a Christian could just say that you're examples have nothing to do with the true message of Christ.

"True atheism"? Atheism = lack of belief in god

Sure, Stalin was a "true atheist" but that doesn't mean he killed because he was an atheist. There is not atheist doctrine that says you should kill those who have different beliefs (or any atheist doctrine at all, for that matter). Not so with religion.

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Romans 1:25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.
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32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

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Qur'an 8:12
YUSUFALI: Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instil terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them."

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Disclaimer: I didn't watch the video and the above does not necessarily have any particular bearing on its contents.

Prior to his rise to power Stalin had been an ordained minister, so that training of getting people to have "faith" gave him the skills to get others to follow him, much like the god character.

(February 7, 2013 at 9:59 pm)Gooders1002 Wrote: Religion is Dying, you just don't know it yet.

It seems fitting that such an ill concieved video finishes with an atomic explosion, that shows what should have been the finest hour for atomic science was instead used to demonstrate how many other humans we could (and did) kill with one bomb.

It's time we stopped blaming social constructs and faced up to the fact that some people will use any excuse to destroy others, that's not religion, that's the nature of humanity.

MM

(February 7, 2013 at 10:02 pm)Insanity x Wrote: Video is invisible for me.

Fucking jesus is invisible to me!

(February 9, 2013 at 9:50 pm)ManMachine Wrote:

(February 7, 2013 at 9:59 pm)Gooders1002 Wrote: Religion is Dying, you just don't know it yet.

It's time we stopped blaming social constructs and faced up to the fact that some people will use any excuse to destroy others, that's not religion, that's the nature of humanity.

MM

That I do agree with. However I would say that if the world was going to end with 1 bomb it will Either be from a Religious terrorist group or Religiously controlled government as I don't see a sector government having Nuclear weapons (or the intestion to) Note: North Korea is not secular is at communist dictatorship.

(February 10, 2013 at 8:20 am)Gooders1002 Wrote:

(February 9, 2013 at 9:50 pm)ManMachine Wrote: It's time we stopped blaming social constructs and faced up to the fact that some people will use any excuse to destroy others, that's not religion, that's the nature of humanity.

MM

That I do agree with. However I would say that if the world was going to end with 1 bomb it will Either be from a Religious terrorist group or Religiously controlled government as I don't see a sector government having Nuclear weapons (or the intestion to) Note: North Korea is not secular is at communist dictatorship.

Right, North Korea is not secular. It's sect is the communist party, it's god is the sect of the state. It is just another form of theocracy, but instead of a god they worship a party and a man.

For far too long "secular" has been falsely demonized by the right. Secular merely means neutral, not favoring any one. Sectarian means favoring a particular group. That applies to political party as well.

The official religion of North Korea is Chondoism centred around the worship of it's leadership as divine gods. And North Korea is the only country in the world to have a head of state who is dead making it a necrocracy.

(February 10, 2013 at 8:20 am)Gooders1002 Wrote:

(February 9, 2013 at 9:50 pm)ManMachine Wrote: It's time we stopped blaming social constructs and faced up to the fact that some people will use any excuse to destroy others, that's not religion, that's the nature of humanity.

MM

That I do agree with. However I would say that if the world was going to end with 1 bomb it will Either be from a Religious terrorist group or Religiously controlled government as I don't see a sector government having Nuclear weapons (or the intestion to) Note: North Korea is not secular is at communist dictatorship.

It's difficult to say with any certainty.

North Korea is, believe it or not, officially an atheist state. If they were to use atomic/nuclear weapons then it would be for political reasons and not religious. China is predominantly Buddhist and Taoist, both pacifist religions, so again it's likely to be politically (or perhaps financially) motivated.

The only country ever to use atomic weapons in war was the USA, no one else has ever used them against other human beings. If you want my pick for country most likely to use atomic/nuclear weapons then I’d pick the USA, and probably for political or financial reasons justified through religious morality.

MM

Thanks for posting this!

Here is a trailer of my book, if you are interested...





Hope you enjoy and I have two other videos. One on misogyny in Religion and the other on homophobia in religion. You can check them out at my youtube channel.

Thanks again and if I get a few moments, I would love to chat about the content.