(February 11, 2013 at 2:16 pm)festive1 Wrote: Why would god make sex so enjoyable, then say it's sinful unless you're trying to have babies... I never understood that one either. Speaking as a mom, kids put a serious damper on the sexy-times, so are the kids preventing their parents from having more kids? Wouldn't that be a sin?

To tempt you, obviously.

It's only a sin to be having sexy-times for enjoyment, what are you: some sodomite?

Maybe that's why god invented locks? Still, sexy-times with a kid knocking on your door saying, "Mommy!!! I need a cup of water/need you to wipe my butt/need you to sing me a night-night song/etc." Yeah, sexy-times don't happen then...

(February 11, 2013 at 2:22 pm)festive1 Wrote: Maybe that's why god invented locks? Still, sexy-times with a kid knocking on your door saying, "Mommy!!! I need a cup of water/need you to wipe my butt/need you to sing me a night-night song/etc." Yeah, sexy-times don't happen then...

God didn't invent locks, you shouldn't need them It's not about having a good time: it's about having children

Don't misrepresent Catholicism, there's a reason or 6 why they stand against stuff like condoms

(February 11, 2013 at 7:00 pm)Gabriel Syme Wrote:

(February 11, 2013 at 2:01 pm)Violet Lilly Blossom Wrote: Why would Catholicism support having sex for the hell of it? If it's not resulting in preganancy: why are you having sex?

This is a common misconception (or deliberate distortion) - the possibility of procreation is only one aspect of heterosexual sex (the other being a uniting act of physical love between partners).

You're misrepresenting Catholicism. It's okay, everyone else does it too.

Quote:These aspects are undeniable and cannot be separated from one another.

It can definitely be minimized, for instance: the woman doesn't need to orgasm. There is sex for procreation, and there is sex for pleasure. Don't become a Sodomite.

Quote:It is simply not true that the Catholic Church says sex is only for the purposes of procreation.

You're reading the wrong texts, buddy. Either that, or we return to the original, in which there's a dual purpose for phallic pleasure... but I didn't figure you'd want to associate Catholicism with sexism.

Quote:However, I would agree that the Church does not promote sex "for the hell of it", which is an exceptionally irresponsible attitude!

Exactly what I said...? It's for procreation or consummation (which is really for procreation), end of.

Quote:Note also that women can control their fertility entirely naturally, with the same level of "protection" as artificial contraception, (as stated by the UK NHS),via the Billings NFP method.

No, only chickens can reject semen.

Quote:Billings is what the Chinese use to police their "one child" policy - it works. There are 1,000,000 Billings teachers in China.

Firstly, no.

Secondly, lol

Thirdly, you missed that whole 'schooling' thing.

Quote:The reason artificial contraception is popular in the west is because:

(1) Capitalists make a lot of money from producing and selling it and

(2) it removes responsibility from the user (in contrast billings requires the user to be responsible)

Ciao ciao
GS

Spreading misinformation in both Catholicism and contraception... can you do anything right?

(February 11, 2013 at 10:03 pm)Violet Lilly Blossom Wrote: [quote='Gabriel Syme' pid='399899' dateline='1360623654']

Quote:Note also that women can control their fertility entirely naturally, with the same level of "protection" as artificial contraception, (as stated by the UK NHS),via the Billings NFP method.

No, only chickens can reject semen.

Dead on, V.



Forgive the pun but, good god, did he really just say that women can control their fertility?

Tell me, Gabriel, can you control the fertility of your semen? I don't mean by pulling out, either. I mean, can you, via telekinesis, make your sperm infertile?