(April 10, 2013 at 7:22 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: Here I'm putting what most of non-Muslim consider as a refutation of Islam into the challenge

I can show that Islamic laws about women, marriage laws, sex is the best system available compared to any other system (existing or even proposed)

Who is up to this challenge????

How do you justify the genital mutilation of women, which is whidespread especialy in the arab world?

(April 10, 2013 at 8:02 pm)The Germans are coming Wrote:

(April 10, 2013 at 7:22 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: Here I'm putting what most of non-Muslim consider as a refutation of Islam into the challenge

I can show that Islamic laws about women, marriage laws, sex is the best system available compared to any other system (existing or even proposed)

Who is up to this challenge????

How do you justify the genital mutilation of women, which is whidespread especialy in the arab world?

It is not widespread as you say it is just the media is brain washing you

It is cultural habits in south Sudan (Not Islamic) for example

However proper FEMALE CIRCUMCISION is something good and can increase sexual desires for women (You can agree or not) but there are some scientific research promoting it (Read here)
and here

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(April 10, 2013 at 12:14 pm)cato123 Wrote: what's the Islamic punishment for apostasy? And you wonder why there aren't lines of thousands in front of mosqes desperate to join the club. It's not a 'bad' muslim issue, it's an inhumane ideology issue.

It is death
and it does make sense!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here is how

It is very similar to major treason punishment in most countries (including many western ones)
Or similar to remove cancer from the body before infecting the rest.

Why it is good?

Assuming that Islam is the correct religion
By killing apostates you reduce the number of other people who can follow (and go to Hell)
Which is good (giving that Islam is correct)

Now can you show/prove that it can be something bad?

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(April 10, 2013 at 3:27 pm)Tonus Wrote: Anyway, as to your challenge, I say the woman should be of sufficient age where she can knit her own burqa and full-body shawl. If you can't completely hide yourself with a sewing kit and a few spools of yarn, you stay in the basement. Age difference? Doesn't matter. What's important is whether or not she shuts up the first time you tell her to.

How's this compare to your model?

You need to understand the full Islamic Model then compare it to human needs

In Islam while there is no minimum age for marriage
If boy or girl are not adults (reached the age of adulthood) they need approval from parents and judge for marriage
the Judge can decide if they are suitable for sexual intercourse or not, also financial and mental abilities, etc.

By the way there is no minimum age for marriage in California as well!!!

(April 14, 2013 at 5:50 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: Assuming that Islam is the correct religion
By killing apostates you reduce the number of other people who can follow (and go to Hell)
Which is good (giving that Islam is correct)

Now can you show/prove that it can be something bad?

And without assuming anything? All it does is removes opposite idead, how is this good in any way? And why when Danish cartoonist draws 12 muhammad cartoons whole islamic world goes nuts and when normal people draw 12 000 muhammad cartoons, all muslim countires do is block internet (or some webpages)? And how is this system your talking about better than any existing systems? Please, shun some light into my infidel eyes.
Oh, and could you provide your "scientific" sources again, but this time please specify authors, year published and journal.

(April 10, 2013 at 11:30 am)festive1 Wrote: (my husband is 21 years my senior)

:o

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(April 14, 2013 at 5:50 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: However proper FEMALE CIRCUMCISION is something good and can increase sexual desires for women (You can agree or not) but there are some scientific research promoting it (Read here)
and here

That's anecdotal - not scientific - could you show me a scientific paper defending the procedure??

(April 14, 2013 at 5:50 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: However proper FEMALE CIRCUMCISION is something good and can increase sexual desires for women (You can agree or not) but there are some scientific research promoting it (Read here)
and here

Are you serious? That's an article from 1959 and 1958(?), therefore the sources are too old.

Let's see some other (more recent!) sources:
"The mildest form, clitoridectomy, is anatomically equivalent to amputation of the penis."

"Sexual function in women with FGM is adversely altered. This adds to the well-known health consequences of FGM."

"Clitoral cysts appear to be a more common complication of FGM than previously thought. Publication of studies that highlight the medical complications of FGM should be encouraged to advocate abandonment of the procedure."

"The systematic review substantiates the proposition that a woman whose genital tissues have been partly removed is more likely to experience increased pain and reduction in sexual satisfaction and desire

^ Doesn't matter when it's from - it's still not scientific.

Yeah.. If one of the indicators for the procedure is to keep the woman from filing a divorce, something is off

In all fairness, female phimosis is indeed something that can be a problem for a woman, but I say that there's a distinct difference between a small cut of the "foreskin" to sewing the labia shut or removing the clitoris altogether.

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And MS, we're still waiting for you to present the points on why muslim marriage is better than any other kind.

You would think people who believe that human bodies were created by a perfect god would not start trying to alter it.

Ramen!

I sincerely hope that this guy is just trolling.