Well, the idiotic and sheep-like nature of some Atheists certainly came as a surprise. I was honestly expecting reasoning, educated debaters.

(May 23, 2013 at 2:53 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: If possible could future posts indicate something positive that you have learned and NOT use the thread to opine how believers are more stupid than you imagined?

Hey, don't look at me. I just mentioned deluded people.

That includes 9/11 truthers and holocaust deniers the like.

By hanging around on atheist forums, I've learned that being an atheist doesn't make you intelligent. They may not believe in a god but they still believe in a billion other things for no reason. Too bad Free-thinking isn't as much a hot-topic as religion is =/

Chad, I understand why you want to exclude negative comments about believers (I think). However, this is a site that attracts people because of their religious views, and if you exclude views pertaining to how they've changed or learned along dimensions relating to religion, you're going to kill a lot of relevant content. Maybe this is what you want, I don't know. I don't think it would be a good thing. Imagine going on a Christian site which has a section for free thinkers, and asking the Christians if they've learned anything -- about any subject but the freethinkers; it sounds like an unnecessarily arbitrary exclusion, and it would seem to exclude some potentially very interesting stuff. It'd almost be akin to creating a forum where both atheists and theists were welcome, but discouraging them from interacting with each other (much like an AF user recently experienced on a theist centered forum). Number one, it's generally at odds with the overall ethic here at AF, and number two, it's arbitrarily excluding what may be some of the most significant content (from both sides; it's faded from memory, but I think idealogue88 made a relevant interfaith observation that I read this morning; do you want believers to not speak about what they've learned about non-theists, too?) I understand the need to restrict content for various purposes, but in a thread devoted to what people learned by coming to a forum that attracted them because of their religious beliefs, it's unreasonably restrictive to ask them to censor their comments about religion and the religious people on this forum.

And if all else fails, this is AF, you don't own this thread, and we will do what we want, so fuck off. (j/k)

(May 23, 2013 at 3:00 pm)ideologue08 Wrote: Well, the idiotic and sheep-like nature of some Atheists certainly came as a surprise. I was honestly expecting reasoning, educated debaters.

Seriously? Well, I can't speak for anyone else of course but the response I gave was a genuine one and accurately reflects what I have learned. Would you prefer I made one up for you instead?

Apart from which, the OP clearly intended this to be a non-debate thread, so expecting such things is guaranteed to be disappointing.

(May 23, 2013 at 3:29 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Seriously? Well, I can't speak for anyone else of course but the response I gave was a genuine one and accurately reflects what I have learned. Would you prefer I made one up for you instead?

What makes you think I'm not being honest? Are theists not capable of honesty or what? Is this something exclusive to Atheists like "thinking for yourself"? Your self-righteousness rating is off the charts.

Apophenia, it always amazes me that you need 100 words to say what others could with 10. Even if I wasn't explicit, I also think my statement applies to believers that want to say how stubborn and vile some atheists can be, but that would be just as boring and trite. But you're right I cannot stop people from being boorish and trite.

(May 23, 2013 at 4:17 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Apophenia, it always amazes me that you need 100 words to say what others could with 10. Even if I wasn't explicit, I also think my statement applies to believers that want to say how stubborn and vile some atheists can be, but that would be just as boring and trite. But you're right I cannot stop people from being boorish and trite.

As if Apo doesn't also say 10 things more with her 100 words than an average person might say with 10

Oh well, nuance is lost upon some people...

I learned that... creationists are real people. They exist. It's something that truly blows my mind.

(May 23, 2013 at 3:41 pm)ideologue08 Wrote:

(May 23, 2013 at 3:29 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Seriously? Well, I can't speak for anyone else of course but the response I gave was a genuine one and accurately reflects what I have learned. Would you prefer I made one up for you instead?

What makes you think I'm not being honest? Are theists not capable of honesty or what? Is this something exclusive to Atheists like "thinking for yourself"? Your self-righteousness rating is off the charts.

Interestingly, that you took my words and somehow turned them into a personal attack against your honesty means I just learned something about you; your reading comprehension, if nothing else. Your projection rating is so far off the charts it punched right through the dimension barrier and ended up somewhere in the reality on the far side of the one next door.