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RE: Intelligent Design, Proof VI - Instincts
June 1, 2013 at 8:21 am
I cite every one of these "Intelligent Design" threads as proof of unintelligent "design." Surely a god wouldn't create followers that can only defend him through pitiful arguments from ignorance.
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RE: Intelligent Design, Proof VI - Instincts
June 1, 2013 at 9:40 am
Muslim Scholar, in case you missed my post in another one of these thread, I'll repeat myself:
Compile your shit!
There's no need to spam pointless thread after thread. If you fail to comply, I'll do it myself and move the whole shebang to the Humor forum, where it belongs.
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RE: Intelligent Design, Proof VI - Instincts
June 2, 2013 at 8:53 am
(This post was last modified: June 2, 2013 at 8:55 am by Muslim Scholar.)
(June 1, 2013 at 8:06 am)cato123 Wrote: Human infants will place the feces of several different species in their mouths, most freqently their own. So much for Allah implanted information.
Unless of course the argument becomes that Allah really does want everyone to eat shit and we are just ignoring him. This is another proof of intelligence
God gave instincts more to animals, because they are not fully responsible for their deeds (there is no reward or punishments)
On the other hand god made us responsible for our actions so we need to learn then act.
don't you see that instincts should be more sophisticated in us as we are more advanced, it is not the case.
(June 1, 2013 at 8:02 am)orogenicman Wrote: Erm, cats don't have to be literate to understand that pointy things may hurt. After all, cats have some rather pointy objects on their paws, so they would intrinsically know something about the subject. One doesn't have to be an Einstein pussy to figure this out. I agree that this thread is not as strong as the others
I think it should be completed with real experiments where you raise a number of cats without seeing a Scorpion then test them with some with other pointing objects
I'm sure that they still act the same.
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RE: Intelligent Design, Proof VI - Instincts
June 2, 2013 at 9:03 am
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Quote:don't you see that instincts should be more sophisticated in us as we are more advanced, it is not the case.
Give an example of a sophisticated instinct vs a non sophisticated instinct.
And also tell me why a human would require more sophisticated instincts in order to survive. Considering that as you said we have the ability to learn, learn things like how to use money and supermarkets, as opposed to hunting and gathering food.
It's like saying "well this is weird, we're more advanced than animals yet I can't run as fast as a cheetah and I'm not as strong as a gorrilla, god must exist."
You're just an animal that doesn't need to be as fast or as strong or have certain instincts that other animals have.
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RE: Intelligent Design, Proof VI - Instincts
June 2, 2013 at 10:04 am
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(June 2, 2013 at 8:53 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: don't you see that instincts should be more sophisticated in us as we are more advanced, it is not the case. More advanced then what? By what metrics? Which instincts should be more sophisticated? By what metrics?
Quote:I agree that this thread is not as strong as the others
I think it should be completed with real experiments where you raise a number of cats without seeing a Scorpion then test them with some with other pointing objects
No, numbskull, it's -your- baby...-you- should raise the cats, put -your- little hypothesis to the test, and stop babbling about it until -you- have done so. When you're done wasting your time, I'll be here to remind you that your experiment has wasted mine- and why. This thread is precisely as strong as the others, for precisely the same reasons.
Quote:I'm sure that they still act the same.
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RE: Intelligent Design, Proof VI - Instincts
June 2, 2013 at 11:51 am
(June 1, 2013 at 9:40 am)Kayenneh Wrote: Muslim Scholar, in case you missed my post in another one of these thread, I'll repeat myself:
Compile your shit!
There's no need to spam pointless thread after thread. If you fail to comply, I'll do it myself and move the whole shebang to the Humor forum, where it belongs.
Given the amount of laughs these threads have provided I really don't know if its humorous on purpose
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RE: Intelligent Design, Proof VI - Instincts
June 2, 2013 at 1:36 pm
(June 2, 2013 at 8:53 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: (June 1, 2013 at 8:06 am)cato123 Wrote: Human infants will place the feces of several different species in their mouths, most freqently their own. So much for Allah implanted information.
Unless of course the argument becomes that Allah really does want everyone to eat shit and we are just ignoring him. This is another proof of intelligence
God gave instincts more to animals, because they are not fully responsible for their deeds (there is no reward or punishments)
On the other hand god made us responsible for our actions so we need to learn then act.
don't you see that instincts should be more sophisticated in us as we are more advanced, it is not the case.
(June 1, 2013 at 8:02 am)orogenicman Wrote: Erm, cats don't have to be literate to understand that pointy things may hurt. After all, cats have some rather pointy objects on their paws, so they would intrinsically know something about the subject. One doesn't have to be an Einstein pussy to figure this out. I agree that this thread is not as strong as the others
I think it should be completed with real experiments where you raise a number of cats without seeing a Scorpion then test them with some with other pointing objects
I'm sure that they still act the same.
Before YOU start on those experiments you should reconsider making prior assumptions such as the one you made above.
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RE: Intelligent Design, Proof VI - Instincts
June 2, 2013 at 1:47 pm
(June 1, 2013 at 9:40 am)Kayenneh Wrote: There's no need to spam pointless thread after thread. I don't get how this is spam...
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RE: Intelligent Design, Proof VI - Instincts
June 2, 2013 at 1:49 pm
(June 2, 2013 at 1:47 pm)ideologue08 Wrote: (June 1, 2013 at 9:40 am)Kayenneh Wrote: There's no need to spam pointless thread after thread. I don't get how this is spam...
Its more that he been posting this as a series rather than just posting it all together.
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RE: Intelligent Design, Proof VI - Instincts
June 2, 2013 at 1:54 pm
(June 2, 2013 at 1:49 pm)Insanity x Wrote: Its more that he been posting this as a series rather than just posting it all together. If he posted it all together in one thread, that would be constituting spam, someone actually got banned for that. So either way Muslim Scholar loses.
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