Quote:Reading and sensible discernment are two totally different things.

Says the nut who believes all the horseshit that is in there!

Quote:Hebrews 11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.

"Something out of nothing?"

(June 5, 2013 at 9:28 am)Godschild Wrote: The scriptures tell us that it had never rained before the flood,

More like -you- tell the scriptures what they tell "us" - business as usual.

(June 5, 2013 at 10:04 am)Esquilax Wrote:

(June 5, 2013 at 9:28 am)Godschild Wrote: The scriptures tell us that it had never rained before the flood, so how is what you have post any argument to what I said. By the way what I said did not come from Genesis.

How is what you just posted an argument at all, GC? the flood being the first time it rained is not at all incompatible with the inaccurate method the biblical authors ascribed the process to. Try paying attention, huh?

Neither one of you have found the scripture verses yet have you. Keep looking.

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(June 5, 2013 at 10:05 am)littleendian Wrote:

(June 5, 2013 at 9:28 am)Godschild Wrote: The scriptures tell us that it had never rained before the flood

What does your own thinking tell you, does that sound very likely?

Yes it does, streams and mists watered the earth.

(June 5, 2013 at 1:08 pm)Godschild Wrote:

(June 5, 2013 at 10:05 am)littleendian Wrote: What does your own thinking tell you, does that sound very likely?

Yes it does, streams and mists watered the earth.

You cannot actually be serious. You don't actually believe that, do you???

The bible tells him so, so it's a fair bet that he does..yes (and that's in there). The bible also tells him that there was no rain before the flood (and that ain't in there)....

-so I guess he's capable of being selective about his beliefs...but I don't think that he's going to select this one out simply because it's hilariously inaccurate.

(June 5, 2013 at 1:08 pm)Godschild Wrote: Neither one of you have found the scripture verses yet have you. Keep looking.

I found it, but I also found what follows. Seems that the wise people at AIG also think your claim is ridiculous:

Quote: Another often-overlooked aspect of this argument is that rain is an integral component of the water cycle. The term water cycle refers to the physical processes of water evaporation, cloud formation, and precipitation (rain, snow, etc.) that continually recycle the world’s water supply.

The water cycle, being powered as it is by the sun’s energy, is intimately tied to many other aspects of the earth’s climate. While we cannot be dogmatic about the details of the pre-Flood environment, we can be certain that the sun and seas were present (Genesis 1:10, 16). Therefore, there is no reason to insist that this normal environmental process was not in operation before the Flood.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles...fore-flood

(June 5, 2013 at 1:53 pm)NoraBrimstone Wrote: You don't actually believe that, do you???

When one believes in something ridiculous, he leaves himself open to believe in all sorts of ridiculous things.

(June 4, 2013 at 10:52 pm)k2490 Wrote:

I saw this same image on my facebook news feed posted by someone that I hardly talk to now.

this just seems too backwards for words.

anyone have any comments on this?

Meh..
The way science is used, is to disproove the existance of God. Rather than explain how God accomplishes or rather how God made the universe to work. Why? Because 'scientist' or those who put their eggs in the 'science' basket, hold fast to the Medieval idea that God can ONLY Work in the ways of Magic... To which one has to forfeit all logic and reason to hold on to that 1000 year old Idea.

God is the God of Creation, as such He put the processes in place that makes the universe work as it does. The same processes that 'science' is just now beginning to indentify and lable. So why would God go through all of the trouble of setting up things like Graveity, or some other more sciency sounding process, just to circumvent them each and everytime He wants to do something with unexplainable magic?

The Very Defination of God mandates that he has the ablity to do things as He will. Meaning if one is truly the Alpha and Omega He can set things up so as to use the natural processes of this universe to make happen what He Wills to happen. -Or- He can Magic it to Happen. God does what God wants to do, that's what Makes Him God. Being a God of only Magic makes him a wizard, and not God. God only being able to work with in the 'laws of established science' makes him really smart/Technoligicaly advanced, and not God. Doing whatever the F*ck He wants when He wants it Makes Him God.

(June 5, 2013 at 2:13 pm)Drich Wrote: Meh..
The way science is used, is to disproove the existance of God. Rather than explain how God accomplishes or rather how God made the universe to work. Why? Because 'scientist' or those who put their eggs in the 'science' basket, hold fast to the Medieval idea that God can ONLY Work in the ways of Magic... To which one has to forfeit all logic and reason to hold on to that 1000 year old Idea.

You revel in being ignorant and ironic both at the same time. Fascinating, really, considering that believing in a magical sky daddy is to forfeit all reason and logic.