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RE: The End Game of Atheism
June 26, 2013 at 12:57 pm
(June 26, 2013 at 12:55 pm)Rationalman Wrote: (June 26, 2013 at 12:50 pm)ShadowWolf1986 Wrote: That is a false assumption. I tested and asked questions, and still do. If God is real He shouldn't be afraid to prove it, and I shouldn't be afraid to look for myself. I found my answer many times over.
Please do tell how exactly you tested your religion. What methods did you use? How did you record your results. What scientific journal were these results published in? Who peer reviewed your experiment?
Oh, good, I'm not the only one who is tired of hearing this vague "I asked, and was given my answer" statement over and over again without any meat to the answer. 
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RE: The End Game of Atheism
June 26, 2013 at 12:58 pm
(June 26, 2013 at 12:55 pm)Creed of Heresy Wrote: (June 26, 2013 at 12:50 pm)ShadowWolf1986 Wrote: That is a false assumption. I tested and asked questions, and still do. If God is real He shouldn't be afraid to prove it, and I shouldn't be afraid to look for myself. I found my answer many times over.
I hear this a lot, and I tire of how vague it is.
What questions have you asked, and what were the answers? Be very specific about how you came to those answers. Please list as many of these questions and the answers you were "given" as possible to maximize your chances of establishing credibility.
I'm tired of hearing Christians claiming they've asked questions. Always so very nondescript about it. "I've asked questions." But they never tell us WHAT those questions were or what their answers were. Just vagueries.
So. Please. Demonstrate the questions and answers. After all, if you still hold your faith after doing so for yourself, surely you are confident enough to bare the Q&A to others so that they might see how right you are...right?
Unless, of course, you're wrong...and you realize you might be wrong...which is what I will assume if you refuse to provide anything, which won't really affect me, but it's something you're going to have to square with some day. Like I did. And lo, behold the results...
That is beyond the scope of this thread, I have nothing to prove to you, I am not going to present details of my life to a wolf like you, and I would have to write a volume the size of a book to explain all of what you request in detail. In other words, not right now, and not to you.
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RE: The End Game of Atheism
June 26, 2013 at 12:59 pm
(June 26, 2013 at 12:43 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: You are applying to med school and you think that evolution says humans will one day be god?
(June 26, 2013 at 12:42 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: When you say 'running defintion in this thread' you always seem to mean your personal defintion that no one else on the thread agrees with. My sentiments exactly.
It's not unusual for physicians to be creationists. The practice of medicine doesn't require as much grounding in evolutionary biology as medical research does.
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RE: The End Game of Atheism
June 26, 2013 at 12:59 pm
(This post was last modified: June 26, 2013 at 1:01 pm by ShadowWolf1986.)
(June 26, 2013 at 12:56 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: This thread should be renamed "Hall of Logical Fallacy."
Hall of Hypocrisy is more like it. Glad you could show up and contribute.
(June 26, 2013 at 12:57 pm)max-greece Wrote: "Look, Science is flawed because it is performed by men. I shouldn't have to expose my children to such things if I choose not to. The Bible has a pretty solid track record, whether you believe it or not."
Hard to know what to say to that. Science doesn't have a better track record than the Bible? Really?
Do you drive a car? Do you have electricity in your house? Running water? Solar panels? TV? Radio? Microwave Oven? Stereo? Oven? Electric lights? Refrigeration? Air conditioning? A water heater? Mass produced clothing? Windows? A telephone? Internet? A computer? ....
When you go out do you use a car? A motorbike? Do you own a mobile phone? A GPS unit? (one of the few items we use that actively needs Einstein's relativity to work). Can I stop now? I've listed everything I can see from where I am sitting in my living room (except the Wii, DVD player, smart TV, fax, sub-woofer, remote controls, swiss army knife...oh crap).
And lets not talk about what happens when you get ill. Straight off to the local Son of God to get that Demon cast out of you PDQ - so much easier than the whole hospital thing with their x-rays, scanners, monitors, blood testing, pharmaceuticals, surgeries and all the rest of it.
I am an Engineering student, so do tell me more about how I despise Science.
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RE: The End Game of Atheism
June 26, 2013 at 1:01 pm
(June 26, 2013 at 12:48 pm)ShadowWolf1986 Wrote: (June 26, 2013 at 12:40 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: So you're just going to pretend I didn't say many atheists make an effort to expose their children to religion so that they can make an informed decision?
Good for them. Now don't assume all Christians brainwash their children and we'll be square.
I don't assume that. Just because I'm an atheist doesn't mean I agree with what some other atheist said, unless all that atheist said was something to the effect of not believing in God.
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RE: The End Game of Atheism
June 26, 2013 at 1:02 pm
(June 26, 2013 at 12:58 pm)ShadowWolf1986 Wrote: That is beyond the scope of this thread, I have nothing to prove to you, I am not going to present details of my life to a wolf like you, and I would have to write a volume the size of a book to explain all of what you request in detail. In other words, not right now, and not to you.
Yes you do have something to prove. You said you asked and tested but provide no evidence for this. If you think it is not relevant to this thread, then make another. Not right now and not to you? I'm guessing that means never
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House
“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom
"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
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RE: The End Game of Atheism
June 26, 2013 at 1:02 pm
(June 26, 2013 at 12:59 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: (June 26, 2013 at 12:43 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: You are applying to med school and you think that evolution says humans will one day be god?
My sentiments exactly.
It's not unusual for physicians to be creationists. The practice of medicine doesn't require as much grounding in evolutionary biology as medical research does.
I happen to be quite familiar with the field myself. In here (Ontario, Canada), evolutionary biology is prerequisite to med school application. So i'm rather shocked that someone planning to apply would have such an outrageous view on evolution.
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RE: The End Game of Atheism
June 26, 2013 at 1:04 pm
(June 26, 2013 at 12:59 pm)ShadowWolf1986 Wrote: Hall of Hypocrisy is more like it. Glad you could show up and contribute.
I'm glad to contribute snark to a thread already so full of evasive maneuvers by one so skilled as yourself. When you come up with answers we haven't seen a billion times all over the internet, and manage to do so without looking like a bored troll, I'll drop honey instead of vinegar.
Until then, I stand in awe of your patient bullshittery.
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RE: The End Game of Atheism
June 26, 2013 at 1:04 pm
(June 26, 2013 at 12:59 pm)ShadowWolf1986 Wrote: I am an Engineering student, so do tell me more about how I despise Science.
"Look, Science is flawed because it is performed by men. I shouldn't have to expose my children to such things if I choose not to.
So you don't despise science - you just choose to teach your kids from a 3000 year old book instead rather than exposing them to science?
Do try to make at least a modicum of sense.
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RE: The End Game of Atheism
June 26, 2013 at 1:05 pm
(June 26, 2013 at 1:02 pm)Rationalman Wrote: (June 26, 2013 at 12:58 pm)ShadowWolf1986 Wrote: That is beyond the scope of this thread, I have nothing to prove to you, I am not going to present details of my life to a wolf like you, and I would have to write a volume the size of a book to explain all of what you request in detail. In other words, not right now, and not to you.
Yes you do have something to prove. You said you asked and tested but provide no evidence for this. If you think it is not relevant to this thread, then make another. Not right now and not to you? I'm guessing that means never
Lol, I have something to prove to you guys? Really? Alright, here is the deal. When you people publish a tome of the details of your life that lead you to Atheism I will have mine rolling off the presses too. Till then, I refer to my previous response.
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