(July 4, 2013 at 1:11 am)Rahul Wrote:

(July 3, 2013 at 9:55 pm)Godschild Wrote: If allah is the same as Yahweh, why did he wait till around 600 AD to begin the Muslim religion. Yahweh started at the beginning.

What "beginning"? You mean why did a different religion jumpstart itself after another competing religion already had some calendar in motion?

You do realize that the "gregorian calendar" is not the first calendar right?

So because the members of another religion didn't align their calendar with your religious calendar then it's somehow post-dated?

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This makes total sense. So obvious.

Beginning of time, creation of the universe, before calenders, before allah was even thought about.

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(July 4, 2013 at 8:11 am)viocjit Wrote:

(July 3, 2013 at 9:55 pm)Godschild Wrote: The Christian God promises to reunite His created ones to Himself in a perfect eternal life.

If allah is the same as Yahweh, why did he wait till around 600 AD to begin the Muslim religion. Yahweh started at the beginning.

The ancestor of Christianity (Judaism) began in the seventh century BC. The earth is around 480 billions of years and the universe is billions of years.

Right, Judaism is over 3200 yrs. old. Just hoe do you think you can prove the age of the universe.

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(July 4, 2013 at 8:21 am)pocaracas Wrote:

(July 4, 2013 at 8:11 am)viocjit Wrote: The earth is around 480 billions of years and the universe is billions of years.

Please tell me there is a typo!

No he's smart and knows exactly what he's stating.

(July 4, 2013 at 11:57 am)Godschild Wrote:

(July 4, 2013 at 8:21 am)pocaracas Wrote: Please tell me there is a typo!

No he's smart and knows exactly what he's stating.

He did say it was a typo.... 480 billion years is a bit too much.
4.80 I can stomach.

(July 4, 2013 at 11:57 am)Godschild Wrote: Beginning of time, creation of the universe, before calenders, before allah was even thought about.

Since our species is only, at most, a little over 200,000 years old on a planet that is roughly 4.54 billion years old, and the fact that Christianity, even the old testament part, is pretty Johnny Come Lately to the religion thing, how exactly are you justifying your religion again?

GC, I think you're a good person. Why has religion dug it's claws so deep into your psyche? Have you realized, yet, that you can actually be a much more decent person if you let go of these false, unsupportable concepts?

It's true. Just be brazenly honest with yourself. What is the old religious battle cry? "If God is with us, who can stand against us?"

If God is real, he's not going to be threatened or punish you for intellectually exploring whether any of this makes sense.

Unless you were raised to believe in another Southern Baptist god that is drastically different than the one I was raised to believe in.

If God is the way and is "The Truth", you should fear nothing for exploring every aspect of it intellectually. Nothing is off limits. Hold the concept, not the god, to strict intellectual standards.

If your god is real, he can take it. Or do you consider your god too weak to fend off such intellectual honesty?

Godschild there are many method of datation (I will cite five of them) who prove that this planet is some billions of years.

1.Argon-argon dating
2.Dendrochronology
3.K-Ar dating
4.Radiocarbon Dating
5.Uranium-thorium dating

Quote:The ancestor of Christianity (Judaism) began in the seventh century BC.

More likely the 6th but it only rounded into shape in the 2d century BC.

Of course, that was a temple-based system built on animal sacrifice which has nothing to do with what passes for judaism today.

(July 4, 2013 at 11:57 am)Godschild Wrote: Beginning of time, creation of the universe, before calenders, before allah was even thought about.

So, what does Allah mean, GC?

I'll tell you, since you don't know: it means God. Pretty much the same guy as yours, just with a different interpretation. Funnily enough, the religions in which Allah is a central figure also state that he created the universe, just like you claim yours does.

So, what's your evidence that you are right, and that this- more recent, think about that for a minute- revelation is wrong.

PS: I know you won't think about that for even a second.

Quote:Right, Judaism is over 3200 yrs. old. Just hoe do you think you can prove the age of the universe.

With science. Delicious, demonstrable, evidence based science. How do you think you can prove that your god exists?

(July 3, 2013 at 9:55 pm)Godschild Wrote: If allah is the same as Yahweh, why did he wait till around 600 AD to begin the Muslim religion. Yahweh started at the beginning.

And what about the religions that came before Judaism/Christianity/Islam?

IIRC part of the islamic mythology is the 'god' had to give mohammed ver. 3.0 because xtian fuckwits (just like G-C, I imagine) had fucked things up beyond belief.

( Of course, they then had to state that there would be no version 4.0 to shut out shitheads like Joey Smith and his morons...er, mormons. Sort of like Microsoft saying it would no longer provide support for XP.)