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RE: Georgia - As Fucked Up As Texas
July 6, 2013 at 3:10 am
(July 6, 2013 at 12:12 am)plaincents822 Wrote: I find it funny when libs scream against prejudice, and then use prejudice against southerners.
And then I like to add that Stephen Colbert is from South Carolina.
If you live in the south most of your life, do you get reverse n-word privileges?
But seriously, fuck these backwards conservative sisterfucking hillbillies. If you live in the south and you're not one of these, you probably voted Democrat anyway.
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RE: Georgia - As Fucked Up As Texas
July 6, 2013 at 7:42 am
I read most of Min's posts with a grain of salt. Yeah, he gets offensive sometimes, but that's why I love his posts
I lived in Arkansas for 13 years, these discriptions aren't simply pulled out of nowhere. Aside from a few exceptions, most everyone I know who chose to stay in Arkansas fit these stereotypes anywhere from a little to a lot.
I remember what we used to say... "Thank god for Mississippi!" Meaning, at least somewhere else is worse, though I don't know what people in Mississippi say in this regard...
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RE: Georgia - As Fucked Up As Texas
July 6, 2013 at 9:16 am
All I know is every single person I've ever known or met from Mississippi were dumber than a bag of hammers being dropped on a evangelist's head [lemme just savor and drink deep of that mental image....mmmm...]. Surprisingly I've known a fairly sizable number of them, somewhere around a dozen. Not a completely representative sample size, I know, but twelve random, unrelated people from Mississippi all being the embodiment of "hurrdurr" is kind of damning to me...
There's gotta be at least a FEW that aren't brain dead from there, though...
...right?...
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RE: Georgia - As Fucked Up As Texas
July 6, 2013 at 9:36 am
I'm forced to say, there are a lot of things I like about Texas. The weather is nice and Houston is a big city with a lot to see. That being said, one of the things I do NOT like is the politics of the state. I'm not sure if Texas is really step up, though, since I spent most of my life in Oklahoma.
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RE: Georgia - As Fucked Up As Texas
July 6, 2013 at 9:44 am
Tara, IMO, Texas is better than Oklahoma...
This thread made me think of this, so I'll just leave this right here. Neil totally calls it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD3bGEFxGC0
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RE: Georgia - As Fucked Up As Texas
July 6, 2013 at 10:25 am
Look just to be clear, it's not the prejudice that gets me. Everyone generally has some kind of prejudice with some group of people. It may be against emo kids, or girls that use the word "like" 5 times in a sentence. On top of that I'm kinda a free speech purist, and I don't care too much about the content of what someone says. That's why I said I found it funny, and not that I was outraged. It's just something that I wanted to point out. But again it's not the prejudice either that I wanted to point out, it's the hypocritical nature of defending particular groups from prejudice for the sake of equality and at the same time being prejudiced against others.
(July 6, 2013 at 1:28 am)Creed of Heresy Wrote: It's not prejudiced to exhibit prejudice against prejudice...if there was even prejudice existing in this thread to begin with [protip: There's not]. Besides, it's not about the people necessarily as it is the government of the states themselves...and the majority of the people, who are responsible for voting said individuals in.
How is prejudice against prejudice not prejudice? Do the prejudices cancel each other out? Further, is murdering a murderer not murder? Or raping a rapist not rape? You can rationalize it any which way you wish and you may even have a reason to do so but prejudice is still being committed.
(July 6, 2013 at 9:16 am)Creed of Heresy Wrote: All I know is every single person I've ever known or met from Mississippi were dumber than a bag of hammers being dropped on a evangelist's head [lemme just savor and drink deep of that mental image....mmmm...]. Surprisingly I've known a fairly sizable number of them, somewhere around a dozen. Not a completely representative sample size, I know, but twelve random, unrelated people from Mississippi all being the embodiment of "hurrdurr" is kind of damning to me...
There's gotta be at least a FEW that aren't brain dead from there, though...
...right?...
Look Creed I'm not trying to attack you here so I apologize ahead of time, I am simply trying to make a point. But I would just like to point out that this is the epitome of prejudice. You've met 12 people from Mississippi and you have made a general assumption over the majority of them. If the same assumption was made about black people on this forum, whoever made that assumption would get torched by everyone else on here. For example, I have modified your previous post:
All I know is every single person I've ever known or met that is black were dumber than a bag of hammers being dropped on a evangelist's head [lemme just savor and drink deep of that mental image....mmmm...]. Surprisingly I've known a fairly sizable number of them, somewhere around a dozen. Not a completely representative sample size, I know, but twelve random, unrelated people that are black all being the embodiment of "hurrdurr" is kind of damning to me...
If you would scream prejudice at this, but not when it's against southerners or any other group then you simply don't get to say you're against prejudice. That is not equality.
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RE: Georgia - As Fucked Up As Texas
July 7, 2013 at 5:02 am
Nah it's cool, you're just makin' a point. You have a good point but the thing is, murder is a crime. Prejudice is not. I can't exactly think of any area of the world where murder isn't a crime, so the justice brought upon a murderer is oftentimes done by a system of government...well, at least that's how it's supposed to work. It doesn't happen like that everywhere. Or all the time. Even here in the US. Thing is, you're supposed to turn to an impartial source of justice if you have information to show that someone is a murderer, right? That's how you retaliate against a murderer.
Someone who is prejudiced however, there is no such law that exists to punish them for it. Prejudice is just allowed to happen. We may not like it as a society but there's no real way to enforce it. And why is that? Well, because prejudice takes many forms, many shapes, and tends to be very subjective. We all seem to agree on this point: Prejudice is bad. Thing is, prejudice is bad, when there's no reason for it, but prejudice when it has a reason is oftentimes very deserving. Prejudice against gays, minorities, women, stuff like that, is unfounded. It comes from bigotry and willful ignorance. So, to be prejudiced against someone who is exhibiting prejudice out of ignorance is reasonable; it's a negative reaction to ignorance and bigotry. Saying "I am prejudiced against racists" does not hold the same negative connotations as "I am prejudiced against niggers" does.
The world does not exist in black and white. Generally assume that if I make a generalized statement, I'm only using a generalized statement because it's the easiest way of saying something. If I say "Texas is stupid," don't take that to meaning that TexaNS are stupid; take it to meaning that the body that REPRESENTS Texas, their politicians, are stupid in the context I am referring to them in. Say for example, this thread. The legislative body responsible for this law is clearly stupid, ignorant, and bigoted. Do you not agree?
Trust me, I am an intelligent enough individual that, most of the time, I know when to specify something. If it had been said "ALL Texans are idiots," then yes. You then become justified in saying I am being unfairly prejudiced. But if I am saying "Texas is stupid" and there is a clear lack of a definitive, all-encompassing statement, then you need to look at the context. And the context here was legislators passing a really idiotic law. And Min was saying it in this exact same way. So I must therefore ask...why do you take it out of context? Why do you cry persecution towards the entirety...when no such persecution of any kind was being made? You are trying to argue against something that isn't there.
I must say, I am disappointed in the reactions to this thread. These are knee-jerk emotional reactions, people being offended by something they shouldn't be...butthurt over nothing, essentially.
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RE: Georgia - As Fucked Up As Texas
July 7, 2013 at 9:09 am
(July 6, 2013 at 7:42 am)festive1 Wrote: I read most of Min's posts with a grain of salt. Yeah, he gets offensive sometimes, but that's why I love his posts
When Min doesn't say something offensive, I spend several minutes re-reading the post to try and figure out where the insult is!
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RE: Georgia - As Fucked Up As Texas
July 7, 2013 at 10:03 am
*skimming thread*
(what the actual fuck? no one's even mentioned kansas yet!)
*goes on about business nonchalantly*
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RE: Georgia - As Fucked Up As Texas
July 7, 2013 at 10:08 am
Well... I work in a call center that deals directly with "nurses" in Mississippi. You know, people who are supposed to be "mildly" educated. I've talked to hundreds and can assure you that I've talked to more boxes of rocks coming from that state than I have anywhere else (and we serve all of the south!).
Also, I used to work for a moving company a few months ago dealing with regular people. All I can say is... wow. These people really ARE dumb as rocks!
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