(August 20, 2013 at 6:12 pm)pocaracas Wrote:

(August 20, 2013 at 4:00 pm)old man Wrote: This is not a description of religion but a description of the mental state of the human race. Do you agree with what I wrote in my previous post concerning that state?

If not, can you tell me what the first sentence is you disagree with and explain why you disagree with it?

“Pride has the ability to convince a man he is the better man when he compares himself to certain others. This pride allows him and causes him at times to regard those others with disrespect, even contempt. From such a mindset it becomes easy to dismiss the true word of others as being irrelevant, unimportant or untrue whenever their statements are seen to conflict with any of his own selfish or self-important desires and plans. Whilst his pride is in control it becomes easy for him to cheat on and lie to anyone who he does not care for, especially those who he assesses as being less important or inferior to himself. As much as he is ready to ignore the truth and deceive others for his own gain, so he becomes equally ready to ignore the truth and deceive himself into thinking how good and right he is. The half-truths and lies of others are then easily welcomed by him as absolute truth whenever they feed and reinforce his feeling of superiority and pleasure. For as much as his self first desires become his needs, so also does his cravings for more leave him more vulnerable and subject to the temptations and corruption of those most crafty and evil. Their lies become more easily accepted by him as truth and therefore become more easily woven into his memory as truth.


From such lie infested memories are man's decisions and judgements too often formed. Whatever is being reasoned and perceived as truth and reality to all who have been corrupted by pride then is all too often an illusion. This state of mind is to some degree the inherited scourge of us all, breeding contempt and hatred for the truth along with paranoia, conflict, killing and destruction, just as the history of man will clearly testify.”

Aye, I can...
But not in here.
Create a new thread in the appropriate area of this forum and send me a PM with a link to it.
This is the "Introductions" area. It's dedicated at introductions and the rules make our replying to such themes somewhat restricted.

If you cannot speak freely and fairly on a subject like this in the Introductions area then it really is too bad.


I have faith in logic and reason, my God is the God of reason for we exist only by reason. If I ignore and reject reason then I become a slave to bigotry and I imitate the beast.

http://atheistforums.org/thread-20559.html

Quote:I have faith in logic and reason, my God is the God of reason for we exist only by reason. If I ignore and reject reason then I become a slave to bigotry and I imitate the beast.

Deism is fine but what would be the point of a God who doesn't do anything, never tells us about himself and doesn't have a relationship or care about his creation/creatures in any way? You may as well be an atheist for all the good a deistic God would do you.

(August 3, 2013 at 12:07 pm)old man Wrote: Cannabis can and often does cause short term memory loss, anxiety, fatigue, loss of concentration, delusions, paranoia and much worse besides.

What were we talking about? I need to know right now! I'm so freakin tired. I'm sorry, what were we talking about; TELL ME! I know you're laughing at me - wait....



What were we talking about?

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(August 7, 2013 at 3:02 am)old man Wrote: ...not being able to sense any positive feedback here it does seem like it's time for me to be moving on...

@oldman

Please don't leave! Give it time - There are some good people here.
It is customary to grill newcomers. Heck, I'm atheist and they're
still making sure I'm legit - be patient.

fff

(August 25, 2013 at 5:19 am)old man Wrote:

(August 20, 2013 at 6:12 pm)pocaracas Wrote: Aye, I can...
But not in here.
Create a new thread in the appropriate area of this forum and send me a PM with a link to it.
This is the "Introductions" area. It's dedicated at introductions and the rules make our replying to such themes somewhat restricted.

If you cannot speak freely and fairly on a subject like this in the Introductions area then it really is too bad.


I have faith in logic and reason, my God is the God of reason for we exist only by reason. If I ignore and reject reason then I become a slave to bigotry and I imitate the beast.

https://atheistforums.org/thread-20559.html

"your god"... As if, if any god were to exist, it would conform to your standards, your desires, your wishes...
Reality is independent from what you want.
Reality is a bitch.
Reality means I'm getting a warning or something like that for typing this... maybe.

Ah... a new post, on it! Maybe I'll only reply after lunch. cya there.

old man Wrote:If you cannot speak freely and fairly on a subject like this in the Introductions area then it really is too bad.

The Introductions are is only for new members to let others know a little bit about them and have the forum welcome them in. We have restrictions on this area to prevent new members being greeted with hostility right of the bat and discourage them from posting further. Since discussing religious beliefs, and debates in general, tend to get heated, we want to keep the Introductions area free of them.

You are more than welcome to discuss any topic you like freely, all we ask is that you do so outside of the Introductions.

(August 25, 2013 at 6:53 am)Sword of Christ Wrote: Deism is fine but what would be the point of a God who doesn't do anything, never tells us about himself and doesn't have a relationship or care about his creation/creatures in any way? You may as well be an atheist for all the good a deistic God would do you.

Yet, he still is much more reasonable to accept a deistic god. Yours is nothing but dust, rust and stolen morality.

(August 25, 2013 at 12:02 pm)LastPoet Wrote: Yet, he still is much more reasonable to accept a deistic god. Yours is nothing but dust, rust and stolen morality.

A God who went to all the trouble of creating the universe must have had an interest in it. There isn't a good reason for him to just fuck off somewhere afterwards, seems like a waste of effort. And the moral nature of Christianity is a current up to date and constantly evolving phenomenon nothing old or rusty about it.

(August 25, 2013 at 3:29 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote:

(August 25, 2013 at 12:02 pm)LastPoet Wrote: Yet, he still is much more reasonable to accept a deistic god. Yours is nothing but dust, rust and stolen morality.

A God who went to all the trouble of creating the universe must have had an interest in it. There isn't a good reason for him to just fuck off somewhere afterwards, seems like a waste of effort. And the moral nature of Christianity is a current up to date and constantly evolving phenomenon nothing old or rusty about it.

Must have? There isn't a good reason for...?

You sure know the mind of god with statements like these. My guess? Because he's a figment of your mind.

(August 25, 2013 at 5:55 pm)Captain Colostomy Wrote: Must have? There isn't a good reason for...?

You sure know the mind of god with statements like these. My guess? Because he's a figment of your mind.

We're figments of Gods mind.

(August 25, 2013 at 6:02 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote:

(August 25, 2013 at 5:55 pm)Captain Colostomy Wrote: Must have? There isn't a good reason for...?

You sure know the mind of god with statements like these. My guess? Because he's a figment of your mind.

We're figments of Gods mind.

How Zen. I admire the pithy retort, but it does nothing to diminish the insight of my above quote.