(October 2, 2013 at 12:40 am)cato123 Wrote: Lion IRC, if you have actually read Leviticus 14 and claim this then you are a fucking idiot. How else to you reconcile LV 14-8 'the person to be cleansed'?

That is a "ceremonial cleansing" that occurs only after the person has been healed (verse 3). The wording is confusing throughout, and you are left to wonder why they were ordered to go through such a complicated ritual once the person had been cured of the disease. I mean, it's a lot more than just a couple of pigeons and some props; they have to slaughter a lamb and smear a bit of blood here and there. There's even a separate paragraph-and-a-half for what to do if the person in question can't afford a regulation cleansing, which is even more bizarre. It's just right neighborly of god to have a backup plan in case you're poor. I wonder if there was a second priest standing outside the temple with a sign reading "GHETTO CLEANSINGS HERE."

(October 2, 2013 at 12:40 am)cato123 Wrote: Lion IRC, if you have actually read Leviticus 14 and claim this then you are a fucking idiot. How else to you reconcile LV 14-8 'the person to be cleansed'?

I'm sure your god will anoint you for lying on his behalf. Why the almighty creator of all that exists needs you to lie for him/her is beyond me.

Integrity doesn't seem to be high on the Christian value list.

It goes against the grain to side with Lion IRC, with whom I have some history in another time and place. hock:

However, I have glanced at Lev 14, and weird as it may sound to our modern way of thinking, here is the sequence:

1. The priest examines the leper and finds that the physical symptoms of the leprosy have been healed. (14:2-3)
2. The priest initiates the ritual to cleanse the leper, which is evidently a ceremonial cleansing. (14:4ff)

Later in the chapter the same sequence is followed for "leprosy" in a house (mold on the walls). First, the priest makes an inspection to be sure that the physical symptoms are gone, and then he initiates the cleansing sacrifice.

It doesn't change the fact that the whole bird blood thing is utterly laughable. I hope they weren't using endangered species.

(October 2, 2013 at 6:31 am)xpastor Wrote:

(October 2, 2013 at 12:40 am)cato123 Wrote: Lion IRC, if you have actually read Leviticus 14 and claim this then you are a fucking idiot. How else to you reconcile LV 14-8 'the person to be cleansed'?

I'm sure your god will anoint you for lying on his behalf. Why the almighty creator of all that exists needs you to lie for him/her is beyond me.

Integrity doesn't seem to be high on the Christian value list.

It goes against the grain to side with Lion IRC, with whom I have some history in another time and place. hock:

However, I have glanced at Lev 14, and weird as it may sound to our modern way of thinking, here is the sequence:

1. The priest examines the leper and finds that the physical symptoms of the leprosy have been healed. (14:2-3)
2. The priest initiates the ritual to cleanse the leper, which is evidently a ceremonial cleansing. (14:4ff)

Later in the chapter the same sequence is followed for "leprosy" in a house (mold on the walls). First, the priest makes an inspection to be sure that the physical symptoms are gone, and then he initiates the cleansing sacrifice.

It doesn't change the fact that the whole bird blood thing is utterly laughable. I hope they weren't using endangered species.

Maybe you misunderstand why God used that. It is a ritual that the children of Israel would perform. The act of faith in this spiritual ritual was rewarded by God who then performed a miracle.

(October 1, 2013 at 9:53 pm)Lion IRC Wrote:

(October 1, 2013 at 7:12 pm)JesusHChrist Wrote: The bird blood cure for leprosy is kinda a hoot too.

9 people applauded this post with kudos coming thick and fast.

Such ignorance of the bible is astonishing.

There is no cure for leprosy in Leviticus.
Go back and read it again and cure your ignorance!

The ritual stated was for people who HAD ALREADY BEEN CURED of their leprosy.

Oh Really? I think you're reading the modern meaning of cleanse into the ritual. Read what cleansing means in other parts of the bible. It is actually supposed to remove something bad, like sin, or debil demons.

First off, Leprosy is a bacterial disease, how would people then become "Cured?" There were no effective treatments for the disease at all. People could go in a natural remission stage, but would continue to carry the bacteria and be contagious.

The "Ritual" is to cure the bacterial infection after the disease goes into remission, to make the person no longer contagious, which is the only logical purpose of the effort. The society needed someone to judge the person clean enough to come out of quarantine and the priest purported himself as the one to judge and give a final "cleaning" of the bad "Ju Ju."

Never-the-less, he would have been wrong all the time and the ritual would never have "Cleansed" anything, it would have never killed the first bacterium. A REAL god could have told them to ritually soak in strong wine and actually do something to kill the bacteria, but not the jewish god! He is the god of mindless stupidity.

(October 2, 2013 at 12:26 am)max-greece Wrote: "If God is not funny, but people are funny, then people could not have made up God, else they would have made Him funny."

Good morning Mr. Logic, I see you've already met Mr. Fail.

Does your computer crack you up in the morning with jokes it made up overnight?

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(October 1, 2013 at 6:37 pm)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: When was God prideful?
When was God vain?

God is not shown to be gluttonous.
God is not lustful.

He certainly can punish evil, that is just wrath.
Jealousy about the Israelites worshipping devils is for their own good.

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I will start that proof staring tomorrow.

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