I'm saying we are finite and so and infinite being couldn't be contained within us. further, earth is finite and so is our galaxy so an infinite location, place or dimension couldn't be within

(October 2, 2013 at 7:41 am)Brakeman Wrote: Where is heaven located now?

No idea, but this is where I'd look first.

(October 2, 2013 at 12:32 pm)Drich Wrote: How do you know there never was a 'firmament?'

Sputnik.

(October 2, 2013 at 12:53 pm)Searching4truth Wrote: I'm wondering why he hasn't unmistakably shown himself ( other than the obvious). I mean what gives? back when these marvelous works of fiction were inspired by god. He was leading people around with clouds and fire and turning others into salt. I mean shouldn't that click in your mind? Thomas was with Jesus and witnessed the miracles and still doubted he came back from the dead. Do they expect our faith to be bigger than that? Oh wait, I sound like I may be on the fence about this. I put as much stock in this as Jack and the Beanstalk

Christ even when He walked amongst us allowed for doubt and disbelief. The passage where He identifies the unforgivable sin in the book of Matthew is proof of that. For even in the mist of all of the healings and miricals the Pharisees were allowed to doubt and disbelieve. They knew what He was doing to be genuine otherwise they would have called Him on it. So rather than accept who He claimed to be, they tried to say His miricals were of the Devil rather than accept Him as God.

So again even if you saw God, it does not mean you will accept Him. If you do not have the capacity to seek the proof God offers now, then you will not accepted if it is packaged a different way.

Drich Wrote:How do you know there never was a 'firmament?'

You like shiny objects and play with balls twine don't you?

You do know that there are more segments to the library than just the children's section don't you?

Well, since you haven't learned to tie your own shoes yet, I guess I should cut you some slack.

(October 2, 2013 at 12:59 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote:

(October 2, 2013 at 12:32 pm)Drich Wrote: How do you know there never was a 'firmament?'

Sputnik.

Are you saying sputnik can attest to what was or was not in the atmosphere over 6000 years ago?

(October 2, 2013 at 1:05 pm)Drich Wrote:

(October 2, 2013 at 12:59 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote: Sputnik.

Are you saying sputnik can attest to what was or was not in the atmosphere over 6000 years ago?

You think that the structure of the universe changed 6000 years ago??

(October 2, 2013 at 1:05 pm)Drich Wrote:

(October 2, 2013 at 12:59 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote: Sputnik.

Are you saying sputnik can attest to what was or was not in the atmosphere over 6000 years ago?

How do you manage not to slobber on yourself?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sputnik_1

"Building material made of clay dried in the sun.

The word for “brick” in Hebrew is derived from the verb “to be white” and is almost identical with “Lebanon,” so named for its snow-clad mountaintops. The very name would lead us to expect the oriental bricks to be whitish in color, rather than red like our more common bricks. The earliest mention of brick in the Bible (Gen.11.3) shows that the molding of clay into bricks and its thorough burning were known when the Tower of Babel was built, not more than a century after the Flood;"

In other words - forget 30 storeys - clay bricks - not more than 5 storeys.

(October 2, 2013 at 12:56 pm)Searching4truth Wrote: I'm saying we are finite and so and infinite being couldn't be contained within us. further, earth is finite and so is our galaxy so an infinite location, place or dimension couldn't be within

Inter dimensional means a being of another dimension. a Dimension does not have to be a finite space.

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(October 2, 2013 at 1:12 pm)max-greece Wrote: "Building material made of clay dried in the sun.

The word for “brick” in Hebrew is derived from the verb “to be white” and is almost identical with “Lebanon,” so named for its snow-clad mountaintops. The very name would lead us to expect the oriental bricks to be whitish in color, rather than red like our more common bricks. The earliest mention of brick in the Bible (Gen.11.3) shows that the molding of clay into bricks and its thorough burning were known when the Tower of Babel was built, not more than a century after the Flood;"

In other words - forget 30 storeys - clay bricks - not more than 5 storeys.

again how do you know what material was used?

3 Then they said to one another, “Come, let us make bricks and bake them thoroughly.”

Even you said the Hebrew term simple describes color of the building material and not actual content.