(October 22, 2013 at 7:32 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote:

(October 22, 2013 at 6:06 pm)Brakeman Wrote: Simply put, there is a very big logical gap for god to love you so much, but never be willing to answer your "phone calls" via voice unless you were one of his special chosen prophets or answer in any way unless you are mental christian zombie.

He does answer phone calls, you won't see a burning bush or see hear anything though.

I think I can speak for a lot of people here in saying "NO HE DOESN'T!"

He never answers, no christian has ever finished a prayer session with any new information. If you think differently, then prove it!

Why has god been willing to talk to moses through a bush, Balaam through a donkey's asshole, yet we here are stuck with the generic?

Why did god love moses and Balaam more than any of the billions of other humans? Why doesn't god ever say anything to women other than he's gonna knock them up?

(October 22, 2013 at 2:29 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: God will be happy to convince you but you have to be a willing participant, he's like a shy lover he won't force himself upon if you're not really that into him.

I think many of us here have somehow managed not to rape anyone without trying to hide the fact that we exist.

How omnipotent of us.

@OP

The degree to which one hears God is proportional to how much one has presupposed things to do with the theology of said God *before* one has heard *anything*. It is this unjustified process that leads people to confirm whatever they want to confirm, since after all they presupposed something for *no reason*.

(October 22, 2013 at 2:23 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: We're the ones that need convincing.

You're the ones needing to be humbled.

Arrogant shit, aren't you?

(October 22, 2013 at 9:45 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Arrogant shit, aren't you?

No. I'm a pompous ass.

(October 22, 2013 at 4:37 pm)max-greece Wrote: " Seriously if you had an audience with the Alpha and Omega of everything, what could you possibly say?"

I'd have a lot of questions, seriously, a lot of questions.

I had a lot of questions too.. Once they were answered then what?

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(October 22, 2013 at 6:06 pm)Brakeman Wrote: One of my first questions would be "who is right?" Which religion?

what if He said all of them to a degree, but at the same time none of them? That all religion is mans effort to worship God. None of which is in of itself good enough?
But instead of worshiping a formula of worship, God wants you to be faithful to what He has given you.

Quote:Another would be "why is the bible such a poor tool?

what if he told you only a poor craftsman blames his tools? That the bible is as much or as little as you make of it?

Quote:, and why didn't you do better communication with the writers?"

if the above can be demonstrated then what more could have been communicated?

Quote:I'd ask him why he was such an egotistical maniac over a dumb fruit eaten by a couple of imbeciles.

and if He showed you everything that that 'fruit' represented?

Quote:Why does he think eternal punishment for a finite misjudgment by weak minded humans is considered fair to him?

suppose He told you to first demonstrate that sins are finite. What could you possibly say?

Quote:I'd have craploads of questions for him. A big one would be "why would you depend on someone as illogical and intellectually dishonest as the theists on Atheist forums to answer our basic questions?"

And if He said crap begets crap? You get back what you put in.

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(October 22, 2013 at 7:04 pm)Ryantology Wrote: I'd be willing, but first, God has to make it known to me that he is there for me to talk to, make it known in such a way that I cannot possibly confuse it for anything else but God.

What if He sent a messenger for you to speak with?

(October 22, 2013 at 3:49 pm)Drich Wrote: Seriously if you had an audience with the Alpha and Omega of everything, what could you possiably say?

"Hey god, get your shit together. Your creations are starving to death you worthless fucktard."

(October 22, 2013 at 6:06 pm)Brakeman Wrote:

(October 22, 2013 at 3:49 pm)Drich Wrote: If they could what would they say?

Do a magic trick for me? I want to win the lottery? Seriously if you had an audience with the Alpha and Omega of everything, what could you possibly say?

One of my first questions would be "who is right?" Which religion?
Another would be "why is the bible such a poor tool?, and why didn't you do better communication with the writers?" I'd ask him why he was such an egotistical maniac over a dumb fruit eaten by a couple of imbeciles. Why does he think eternal punishment for a finite misjudgment by weak minded humans is considered fair to him?

I'd have craploads of questions for him. A big one would be "why would you depend on someone as illogical and intellectually dishonest as the theists on Atheist forums to answer our basic questions?"

I wouldn't answer those questions because I'm human and would be mad enough to just ignore you.
Why would you expect God to answer hateful questions? You would ask the God of creation who's right, really? Then you would ask which religion is correct, really?
I can hear Him now, "don't you consider yourself logical, could you please explain to Me why you believe such."
Then you would ask God why His word is a poor tool and why an omniscient God did a poor job of communication with the writers of scriptures. Again I can hear God, "why has so many billions got it but you want to run it down."
Then you would ask Him why the Christians here are so intellectually dishonest that we can't answer the questions. Again I can hear Him say, "if you would use the intelligence I gave you you would understand what they have told you."
You want answers from God, then you need to be reasonable and ask the right questions, He wants to save you before anything else and if you're not interested then why would you expect Him to respond. Being selfish will get you nowhere with God.

GC

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(October 22, 2013 at 8:23 pm)Brakeman Wrote:

(October 22, 2013 at 7:32 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: He does answer phone calls, you won't see a burning bush or see hear anything though.

I think I can speak for a lot of people here in saying "NO HE DOESN'T!"

He never answers, no christian has ever finished a prayer session with any new information. If you think differently, then prove it!

Why has god been willing to talk to moses through a bush, Balaam through a donkey's asshole, yet we here are stuck with the generic?

Why did god love moses and Balaam more than any of the billions of other humans? Why doesn't god ever say anything to women other than he's gonna knock them up?

Why do you believe you and the other non believers here are so special, why do you think to satisfy your ego that God has to communicate with you differently than He has any of the Christians here. You may believe you are more special than the Christians here, but God doesn't. We are His eternal children, why wouldn't He speak to us to help us through life, you and the other non believers here could not care less for God or His children, so why would He speak to such arrogance. You really want to talk with God get serious and humble yourself, could be He will listen and then answer.

GC

(October 22, 2013 at 11:24 pm)Godschild Wrote: Why do you believe you and the other non believers here are so special, why do you think to satisfy your ego that God has to communicate with you differently than He has any of the Christians here. You may believe you are more special than the Christians here, but God doesn't. We are His eternal children, why wouldn't He speak to us to help us through life, you and the other non believers here could not care less for God or His children, so why would He speak to such arrogance. You really want to talk with God get serious and humble yourself, could be He will listen and then answer.

GC

Because he doesn't actually talk to you GC.
You want to claim that god does talk to you and other christians, ask him something simple like my middle name and post the answer.