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Why can't non-christians talk with god?
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Arrogance GC? I think not.
Should your god turn out to be real, ew even typing that left a bad taste in my mouth, he has a shitload of terrible atrocities to answer for.  (October 22, 2013 at 4:19 pm)Faith No More Wrote:(October 22, 2013 at 2:29 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: God will be happy to convince you but you have to be a willing participant, he's like a shy lover he won't force himself upon if you're not really that into him. I have sought God earnestly too, but have little to show for it. My Christian friend says that my life is clouded in sin and that is why God does not bother with me. I am vexed about this.  (October 23, 2013 at 4:33 am)hobie Wrote:(October 22, 2013 at 4:19 pm)Faith No More Wrote: So, what would your response be to someone that sought god earnestly but found nothing? Amazing how unchristian christian friends can be isn't it. Its also totally against the teachings - they adore repentant sinners - Jesus is all over them. The concept that you have to be sin free to get to Jesus is just rubbish. I don't know - sometimes its enough to make you think there's no God at all........oh!
Kuusi palaa, ja on viimeinen kerta kun annan vaimoni laittaa jouluvalot!
The christian responses are pretty weak aren't they? They amount to simple "you're not worthy", despite me being a supposedly beloved child of god's. They claim that my questions would be "hateful" which amounts to a prohibition of asking questions based on my understanding and observation using the brain and logic borne to a "child of god."
Despite their protestations, god does not speak.
Find the cure for Fundementia!
 (October 22, 2013 at 8:46 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote:(October 22, 2013 at 2:29 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: God will be happy to convince you but you have to be a willing participant, he's like a shy lover he won't force himself upon if you're not really that into him. What sword it trying to say is you must bean idiot first before you can be convinced of the virtues of idiocy. 
Why can't they talk to god? They can! State hospitals are full of people that talk to gods...
 (October 22, 2013 at 9:40 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: You're the ones needing to be humbled. If I am to judge by the behavior of Christians here, god is unconcerned with people being humble. (October 23, 2013 at 4:33 am)hobie Wrote: I have sought God earnestly too, but have little to show for it. My Christian friend says that my life is clouded in sin and that is why God does not bother with me. I am vexed about this. If I am to go by what the Christians here say, the whole point of seeking god is redemption of sin, which doesn't make sense if being "clouded" in sin prevents you from finding him. But the problem with that is if you ask 10 Christians a question, and you will get 10 different answers. I would say your friend has just created an ad hoc excuse as to why you can't find him and he/she can, so your friend doesn't have to except the fact that he/she has deluded him/herself. The brain has all kinds of defense mechanisms to keep it from accepting that its worldview is false, and rationalizations like that are one of them.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
 (October 22, 2013 at 10:25 pm)Drich Wrote: I had a lot of questions too.. Once they were answered then what? Then you had a lot of answers, I suppose.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould  (October 23, 2013 at 10:25 am)Hobbitgirl Wrote: Why can't they talk to god? They can! State hospitals are full of people that talk to gods... It's not the people who talk to God that I'm worried about, it's the people whom God talks to who scare me.
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
 (October 23, 2013 at 1:30 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote:(October 22, 2013 at 11:24 pm)Godschild Wrote: Why do you believe you and the other non believers here are so special, why do you think to satisfy your ego that God has to communicate with you differently than He has any of the Christians here. You may believe you are more special than the Christians here, but God doesn't. We are His eternal children, why wouldn't He speak to us to help us through life, you and the other non believers here could not care less for God or His children, so why would He speak to such arrogance. You really want to talk with God get serious and humble yourself, could be He will listen and then answer. That's exactly why you wouldn't get answers to pray, selfishness is not part of God's will. GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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