Aloha Everyone! I won't make my story/introduction too long, I'll try for short and sweet. My name is Amanda, I'm 31. I live on and island....ah, love! Never been baptized, went to church randomly growing up with some family and some friends up until I was about 15.......none of it EVER clicked for me, not even for a second. Every time I went to church with anyone, I left with the feeling that I was going to hell, for sure, no questions asked, and not because I was "bad" but because I wasn't one of them, I wasn't "saved." I tried to have it make sense and be open to the possibilities, still nothing ever panned out. I suppose I even kept things "somewhat open" up until last week. I knew how I've felt for the last 20 years or so, and now I've solidifying it completely. No ifs ands or buts....plain and simple, I don't believe in it at all, I know this.

So now that years have passed for me since reading randomly throughout bibles and littles bits here and there of church, I feel like I'm in a place to better understand the bible, and actually read the damn thing. I want to read it. Problem is, which one!!!!!!!!

BIG QUESTION: Which bible is the one that hasn't been completely jacked with. I'd rather go all original (obviously I know it's not original, but ya know) but there are waaaay too many. I've even tried to research it and can't come up with which one. I'd appreciate any help if possible!

Many Mahalos!

Hi from the biggest island of all.


Short answer to your question is no.
There is no such thing as the original bible.
All extant versions are copies, mistranslations or plagiarisms of other copies, mistranslations or plagiarisms and so on and so forth.
Which I've always thought weird, since you would think god would take extra care to make sure his perfect message to humanity would be immune to human error.

Hmmm... Not jacked with? Since the whole damned thing is basically a work of fiction it's going to be hard to find one that hasn't been jacked with.

What Zen said.

Welcome!

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And what Pappy said

The earliest xtian bibles are the Codex Vaticanus and the Codex Sinaiticus. Both have significant differences to what passes for a "bible" today.

Read Bart Ehrman's "Jesus Interrupted."

(November 9, 2013 at 8:36 pm)MandaMaui Wrote: So now that years have passed for me since reading randomly throughout bibles and littles bits here and there of church, I feel like I'm in a place to better understand the bible, and actually read the damn thing. I want to read it. Problem is, which one!!!!!!!!

BIG QUESTION: Which bible is the one that hasn't been completely jacked with. I'd rather go all original (obviously I know it's not original, but ya know) but there are waaaay too many. I've even tried to research it and can't come up with which one. I'd appreciate any help if possible!

Many Mahalos!

Hi and welcome. The simple answer, though the above idiots refuse to admit it, is that none are "completely jacked with". Not even the NWT is "completely jacked with".

I'd avoid the Catholic translations - or any translations that favour "the septuagint" in any way (JB, NJB, etc). If you want to avoid translations that are more "loose" with the translation style, then avoid NIV, NLT and MSG, and instead read ESV, NRSV, HCSB, or even the NKJV.

Yeah, I hear ya guys. I guess I just feel the need to read the book. Blows my mind that there's a million versions, just another reason I find it so ridiculous. I guess what I was going for was the book that has been less tainted with. Thanks for the welcome, much appreciated

I would definitely read the SAB, Skeptics Annotated Bible. It is certainly more enjoyable and you'll actually finish it instead of nodding off as on the others..

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/index.htm

Quote:that none are "completely jacked with"

But all are jacked off.

(November 9, 2013 at 9:59 pm)Aractus Wrote:

(November 9, 2013 at 8:36 pm)MandaMaui Wrote: So now that years have passed for me since reading randomly throughout bibles and littles bits here and there of church, I feel like I'm in a place to better understand the bible, and actually read the damn thing. I want to read it. Problem is, which one!!!!!!!!

BIG QUESTION: Which bible is the one that hasn't been completely jacked with. I'd rather go all original (obviously I know it's not original, but ya know) but there are waaaay too many. I've even tried to research it and can't come up with which one. I'd appreciate any help if possible!

Many Mahalos!

Hi and welcome. The simple answer, though the above idiots refuse to admit it, is that none are "completely jacked with". Not even the NWT is "completely jacked with".

I'd avoid the Catholic translations - or any translations that favour "the septuagint" in any way (JB, NJB, etc). If you want to avoid translations that are more "loose" with the translation style, then avoid NIV, NLT and MSG, and instead read ESV, NRSV, HCSB, or even the NKJV.

"Those idiots"......
If you would be good enough to show how we are incorrect in what we said Danny that would be great.