(November 15, 2013 at 7:54 am)CapnAwesome Wrote: How anyone can think anything other than Islam is beyond me. Suicide bombings are a tiny part of what is wrong with Islam. How about women's rights, how about wide spread riots AGAINST the freedom of speech? How about the enslavement of domestic workers in Saudi Arabia or the frequent acid attacks against unfavored wives in Pakistan? How about the frequent death threats and assassinations against authors and artists by Muslims in the western world or using death as a punishment for apostasy, homosexuality and atheism that is common in the Islamic world? Like I said, suicide bombing is a tiny tiny part of what is wrong with Islam. that the Tamil Tigers are also shitheads doesn't mean anything about Islam and how fucking shitty it is for the world.

Most of what I want to say is already in your post.

The simple fact that none of what you've listed is endemic to islam as a whole shows the fallacy of your claim. You're confusing religion with culture.

Until people learn to see through such simpleminded crap, we'll never be able to deal with the root cause.

I just jumped in here, so forgive me if it's already been clarified, but do you think that the number suicide bombings over the course of their occurrences would be lower, higher, or the same if Islam was never founded or practiced? Why?

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(November 9, 2013 at 3:59 pm)Rationalman Wrote: I'm sorry but you are wrong. Tomorrow, Richard Dawkins could renounce atheism, say he's seen the light and he was a fool for not believing. And see what that does to atheism and atheists. The answer would be: nothing. Every atheist gets there on their own. Mainly through observing the evidence, not blindly following a leader. Granted, a lot of atheists do like Richard Dawkins and listen to what he says but that's only because he provides so much evidence against religion and the existence of deities. If he converted to christianity tomorrow, it would have no effect on atheists at all, except to piss us off.

He would have a lot of of explaining to do, and it would be fun to cross examine him using only his own objections from his own books! Pick me pick me! I'd love to do that!

Somehow, I have a very, very hard time seeing Richard Dawkins converting to Christianity and "seeing the light." The guy is as atheistic and antitheistic as they come.

(November 15, 2013 at 9:19 pm)Creed of Heresy Wrote: Somehow, I have a very, very hard time seeing Richard Dawkins converting to Christianity and "seeing the light." The guy is as atheistic and antitheistic as they come.

For some reason that makes it seem all the more possible to me.

(November 15, 2013 at 10:01 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:

(November 15, 2013 at 9:19 pm)Creed of Heresy Wrote: Somehow, I have a very, very hard time seeing Richard Dawkins converting to Christianity and "seeing the light." The guy is as atheistic and antitheistic as they come.

For some reason that makes it seem all the more possible to me.

What you mean the whole "the lady doth protest too much" schtick? I would laugh my fucking arse off if dawkins converted

Not especially. It's hard to imagine a man who has hated religion so much and with such an endless barrage of facts against the ones who try to apologize for their religion's history of fuckups would suddenly go "FUCK SCIENCE, RELIGION IS RIGHT."