(November 19, 2013 at 3:47 pm)Sleepy Wrote: So beautiful....Islam the religion of tolerance

Islam is a religion of tolerance he cries!
Meanwhile muslims are blowing themselves up in crowded places, flying planes into buildings, stoning women, cutting people apart in the street and beheading people on the internet.
So you will forgive me if I am skeptical of that claim.
There is obviously something in your holy book that is compelling them to do this

(November 12, 2013 at 11:16 pm)Sleepy Wrote: Yeah I can clear that up for you. What is an atheist? Let's hypothetically assume there is a God.

Let's not.

THAT'S an atheist.

All these claims are easy and not even repeated by 'scholarly atheists'

The 'Muslims' blowing themselves up have no representation of Islam. The killing of innocent civilians is against Islam and those individuals that do suicide bombing are going straight to hell without any virgins.

I'm glad somebody mentioned that how people who believe in a certain religion are denying others and atheists only deny one more.



Why do I follow Islam? Because every other religion is nonsensical.

There has to be something that is set as a standard. The concept of God is that He is the highest power. There is none higher than Him.

Hinduism- multiple gods, women buried and buried alive, worship idols, racist caste system

Buddhism- no real concept of God, some greg proverbs though

Confucianism- Great proverbs also but that's where it ends


Judaism- One God. God sent down Prophets except Jesus is a fake

Christianity- Jesus is god, god is a human being, he is limited, he has to eat, sleep, drink, restrained by a human body, captured by vision.

No vision can capture Him. He knows no slumber. He knows no death. He needs no food. He is Eternal. The trinity is strange and nonsensical. The eat my flesh drink my blood is pagan nonsense. I know for a fact many of you agree with this.

Mark 13:32 says the son does not know the final hour. God is always All-Knowing.


Islam- Allah is God. He is One. He is the Greatest. The All Knowing. The Most Merciful. The Most Compassionate. He knows everything and He is everywhere but he is not in everything. He is a separate Being from every material we know. No vision can capture Him.
He sent down Prophets who had the same message.
Prophet Musa( Moses) peace be upon him, Prophet Isa( Jesus) peace be upon him, Prophet Sulaiman ( Solomon ) , Prophet Muhammad S.A.W
There is One God. Be kind. Be respectful. Be virtuous. Gain knowledge. Be clean. Be humble. Don't steal. Don't lie. Don't speak BS of others. Don't hurt innocent people.

Allah made angels, humans, and jinn. I swear to all of you that jinn are real. They are not ghosts. They are beings made of fire. Shaitan( devil) himself is a jinn. They have their own communities, beliefs. What people think are ghosts are actually jinn. There are good jinn and bad jinn. They like to stay mostly away from humans in abandoned places and also have the ability to change their appearance. Many live in the ocean. They are indeed real.


Propet Sulaiman was given the power to command jinn. The built the second temple of Jerusalem. The miracle of Allah was that prophet Sulaiman was standing on his cane per seeing the construction when he died and Allah's miracle was not letting his body rot right away so the jinn would keep building



Quran 34:14
And when We decreed for Solomon death, nothing indicated to the jinn his death except a creature of the earth eating his staff. But when he fell, it became clear to the jinn that if they had known the unseen, they would not have remained in humiliating punishment.

(November 19, 2013 at 5:25 pm)freedomfromfallacy Wrote:

(November 19, 2013 at 5:23 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Is that "House" from the Fox show in your avatar? If so you and I are headed for prison for copyright violations.

Nope. It's my look and Hugh Laurie stole it. If anything, I should sue him.

Sorry for the collateral damage, but it does look like "House". And while I can handle trash talk from ABBA haters, I am very pissed at people with money picking on mere fans.

(November 19, 2013 at 6:50 pm)Sleepy Wrote: All these claims are easy and not even repeated by 'scholarly atheists'

The 'Muslims' blowing themselves up have no representation of Islam. The killing of innocent civilians is against Islam and those individuals that do suicide bombing are going straight to hell without any virgins.

I'm glad somebody mentioned that how people who believe in a certain religion are denying others and atheists only deny one more.



Why do I follow Islam? Because every other religion is nonsensical.

There has to be something that is set as a standard. The concept of God is that He is the highest power. There is none higher than Him.

Hinduism- multiple gods, women buried and buried alive, worship idols, racist caste system

Buddhism- no real concept of God, some greg proverbs though

Confucianism- Great proverbs also but that's where it ends


Judaism- One God. God sent down Prophets except Jesus is a fake

Christianity- Jesus is god, god is a human being, he is limited, he has to eat, sleep, drink, restrained by a human body, captured by vision.

No vision can capture Him. He knows no slumber. He knows no death. He needs no food. He is Eternal. The trinity is strange and nonsensical. The eat my flesh drink my blood is pagan nonsense. I know for a fact many of you agree with this.

Mark 13:32 says the son does not know the final hour. God is always All-Knowing.


Islam- Allah is God. He is One. He is the Greatest. The All Knowing. The Most Merciful. The Most Compassionate. He knows everything and He is everywhere but he is not in everything. He is a separate Being from every material we know. No vision can capture Him.
He sent down Prophets who had the same message.
Prophet Musa( Moses) peace be upon him, Prophet Isa( Jesus) peace be upon him, Prophet Sulaiman ( Solomon ) , Prophet Muhammad S.A.W
There is One God. Be kind. Be respectful. Be virtuous. Gain knowledge. Be clean. Be humble. Don't steal. Don't lie. Don't speak BS of others. Don't hurt innocent people.

Allah made angels, humans, and jinn. I swear to all of you that jinn are real. They are not ghosts. They are beings made of fire. Shaitan( devil) himself is a jinn. They have their own communities, beliefs. What people think are ghosts are actually jinn. There are good jinn and bad jinn. They like to stay mostly away from humans in abandoned places and also have the ability to change their appearance. Many live in the ocean. They are indeed real.


Propet Sulaiman was given the power to command jinn. The built the second temple of Jerusalem. The miracle of Allah was that prophet Sulaiman was standing on his cane per seeing the construction when he died and Allah's miracle was not letting his body rot right away so the jinn would keep building



Quran 34:14
And when We decreed for Solomon death, nothing indicated to the jinn his death except a creature of the earth eating his staff. But when he fell, it became clear to the jinn that if they had known the unseen, they would not have remained in humiliating punishment.

Yet your religion is yonger than most other "mainstream" religions. Why is that?

This guy is honestly a waste of time. You can raise all the questions and challenges you like, he just ignores you when he doesn't have anything to say, then after a few posts starts repeating himself and claiming that no one has any rebuttals.

(November 19, 2013 at 6:50 pm)Sleepy Wrote: Be kind. Be respectful. Be virtuous. Gain knowledge. Be clean. Be humble. Don't steal. Don't lie. Don't speak BS of others. Don't hurt innocent people.

I agree with this.
I'm sure there are a lot more "don't"s, but those are a very good start.

You have the "Try not to be a cunt", which encompasses most of those...

(November 19, 2013 at 6:50 pm)Sleepy Wrote: Allah made angels, humans, and jinn. I swear to all of you that jinn are real.

I swear to you that Harry Potter is real. Hermione just came by and sucked my dick! She had to use a Leviosa spell on me, but got to it.
I swear to you that really, really happened!




Swearing has no value.
To speak truly has no value.

You want us to take you jinn claim seriously, present evidence. Preferably irrefutable evidence... remember that photoshop can work wonders and there are set-top boxes that can touch up 4K video in real-time, so video is also difficult to trust...

(November 19, 2013 at 6:50 pm)Sleepy Wrote: They are not ghosts.

Aye... there are some low frequencies that play tricks with your mind... well, with some people's minds... and they become frightful and can feel and see what is not there... look it up.

(November 19, 2013 at 6:50 pm)Sleepy Wrote: They are beings made of fire. Shaitan( devil) himself is a jinn. They have their own communities, beliefs. What people think are ghosts are actually jinn. There are good jinn and bad jinn. They like to stay mostly away from humans in abandoned places and also have the ability to change their appearance. Many live in the ocean. They are indeed real.

Yeah... remember what I said about low frequencies? commonly found in abandoned places where the wind howls... -.-'

(November 19, 2013 at 6:50 pm)Sleepy Wrote: Propet Sulaiman was given the power to command jinn. The built the second temple of Jerusalem. The miracle of Allah was that prophet Sulaiman was standing on his cane per seeing the construction when he died and Allah's miracle was not letting his body rot right away so the jinn would keep building



Quran 34:14
And when We decreed for Solomon death, nothing indicated to the jinn his death except a creature of the earth eating his staff. But when he fell, it became clear to the jinn that if they had known the unseen, they would not have remained in humiliating punishment.

Stories are stories.
Many buildings have since been made... none had the fortuitous aid of any jinn...
Present jinns for us and we'll consider your claims...
Until then, your jinns go the same way ghosts go, the same way fairies go, the same way santa goes, the same way gods go, the same way leprechauns go... Human imagination, the one infinite force known to man.

By your repetition I can tell you're dying to see it. I guess you watch a lot of supernatural sci fi

I really don't go based off of videos also because though jinn are real those videos may be fabricated. The only true way is if you see one for your self and there are jinn summoning rituals that involve magic. Magic is forbidden for Muslims to do and I'm not talking about little tricks. If you don't know any jinn an you want to meet one that is your way of doing so

I'm not the type to look up the steps to do so but if you really have the balls than you do it and let me know.

What will happen is a few different things. You can summon a completely bad jinn. You can summon a good jinn. And you can summon a jinn who likes to mess around and is bad but not evil, just likes to scare people. Or you can meet a jinn who will act like he's good and really be deceiving you. There are also name our accounts of jinn on various forums you can read, it can be pretty interesting.

Though I honestly say to you not to do so and summon jinn thinking it's a joke. It's not easy for them to leave you alone. Though if you really want proof there is a God you can do so and deal with the results.

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No joke don't do it though. It's not reverse psychology, I'm telling you because I know they are real an it is not a joke to do that because first of all it's haram( prohibited) to do summoning. And Muslim or non Muslim I for encourage sinning. Second the results can be bad

(November 19, 2013 at 6:50 pm)Sleepy Wrote: Why do I follow Islam? Because every other religion is nonsensical.

That's not a reason to follow Islam. At most, it's a reason not to follow every other religion, because everyone else being wrong, doesn't mean the religion you've hitched yourself to is right, especially since you haven't factored in the possibility that they're all wrong.

Quote:There has to be something that is set as a standard. The concept of God is that He is the highest power. There is none higher than Him.

Why does there have to be something higher? Demonstrate, don't just assert. Bald claims don't mean much here.

(November 19, 2013 at 7:18 pm)Sleepy Wrote:

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By your repetition I can tell you're dying to see it. I guess you watch a lot of supernatural sci fi

I really don't go based off of videos also because though jinn are real those videos may be fabricated. The only true way is if you see one for your self and there are jinn summoning rituals that involve magic. Magic is forbidden for Muslims to do and I'm not talking about little tricks. If you don't know any jinn an you want to meet one that is your way of doing so

I'm not the type to look up the steps to do so but if you really have the balls than you do it and let me know.

What will happen is a few different things. You can summon a completely bad jinn. You can summon a good jinn. And you can summon a jinn who likes to mess around and is bad but not evil, just likes to scare people. Or you can meet a jinn who will act like he's good and really be deceiving you. There are also name our accounts of jinn on various forums you can read, it can be pretty interesting.

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Though I honestly say to you not to do so and summon jinn thinking it's a joke. It's not easy for them to leave you alone. Though if you really want proof there is a God you can do so and deal with the results.

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No joke don't do it though. It's not reverse psychology, I'm telling you because I know they are real an it is not a joke to do that because first of all it's haram( prohibited) to do summoning. And Muslim or non Muslim I for encourage sinning. Second the results can be bad

OH how deluded you are...
Ever heard of ouija boards?
People see what they want to see.
Many idiots have tried to summon demons... either some government agency has been terribly efficient (which would be way strange!) or none of them succeeded....

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(November 19, 2013 at 7:18 pm)Sleepy Wrote: The only true way is if you see one for your self and there are jinn summoning rituals that involve magic.

So they exist, but I have to summon them?
How did the first guy discover how to summon them?
How is it possible for someone to come across that information?