(November 21, 2013 at 10:32 am)genkaus Wrote:

(November 21, 2013 at 10:22 am)super spidey man Wrote: Ok ,what I have heard is that scientist and physiologists have come to the idea that before the big bang there was nothing and not sure what to think. Correct me if im wrong. and there is ideas a multiverse thing but that still doesn't solve the problem where did the first one come from? black holes and all this other crazy stuff out there had to have a start. and all this stuff that doesn't make stuff to help a mass explosion of physics and laws to happen by itself. I don't think Your girlfriend has enough faith to be an Atheist and I don't eaither

You are wrong. Many times over.

Physiologists don't study cosmology.
Scientists have not come to any conclusion about "before the big-bang".
Multiverse hypothesis is not about sequential universes.
Formation of black-holes is understood pretty well.
Physics and laws have never exploded.
Being an atheist doesn't require faith.

Friend you need plenty of faith to be atheist to much for what i believe. could you tell me the definition of faith?

(November 21, 2013 at 11:02 am)ronedee Wrote: Well... tell us [more] about the beginning, and your evidence?

God did it is not a proper or reliable substitute for the gaps of knowledge in relation to the beginning.

It has been stated numerous times on this forum. A true lover of knowledge does not jump to an illogical fairy tale conclusion simply because the answer has not yet been discovered. Rather, to be completely honest with one's self and his intellect, the individual must concede that the answers are still being sought.

Spidey -

Faith is a form of complete trust in something/someone - in this context it's regarding a deity; atheism is without faith. Which means, fuck you you're wrong.

(November 21, 2013 at 11:07 am)Psykhronic Wrote: Spidey -

Faith is a form of complete trust in something/someone - in this context it's regarding a deity; atheism is without faith. Which means, fuck you you're wrong.

how do you believe the universe started? do you trust in what you believe?

I don't 'believe' anything; I am decently convinced of science's explanation - but that explanation is subject to change. I trust nothing completely.

(November 21, 2013 at 11:06 am)Kitanetos Wrote:

(November 21, 2013 at 11:02 am)ronedee Wrote: Well... tell us [more] about the beginning, and your evidence?

God did it is not a proper or reliable substitute for the gaps of knowledge in relation to the beginning.

It has been stated numerous times on this forum. A true lover of knowledge does not jump to an illogical fairy tale conclusion simply because the answer has not yet been discovered. Rather, to be completely honest with one's self and his intellect, the individual must concede that the answers are still being sought.

Yes but my reason makes a lot more sense and requires less faith than how you believe the Universe or big bang happend

(November 21, 2013 at 11:04 am)super spidey man Wrote: Friend you need plenty of faith to be atheist to much for what i believe. could you tell me the definition of faith?

Faith is belief in absence of or in contradiction to evidence. Which is why the term doesn't apply to atheist belief.

(November 21, 2013 at 11:12 am)super spidey man Wrote: Yes but my reason makes a lot more sense.

To your self-deluded mind, perhaps, but not in relation to reality.

(November 21, 2013 at 11:13 am)Kitanetos Wrote:

(November 21, 2013 at 11:12 am)super spidey man Wrote: Yes but my reason makes a lot more sense.

To your self-deluded mind, perhaps, but not in relation to reality.

haha reality You think what you believe is reallity? It just doesn't make sense please just tell me your view on what created the big bang?

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(November 21, 2013 at 11:11 am)Psykhronic Wrote: I don't 'believe' anything; I am decently convinced of science's explanation - but that explanation is subject to change. I trust nothing completely.

But that is something you are supporting to prove something wrong. I have a question why do people have thoughts of reason and knowledge and animals do not?

(November 21, 2013 at 11:18 am)super spidey man Wrote: haha reality You think what you believe is reallity? It just doesn't make sense please just tell me your view on what created the big bang?

If you are having trouble discerning fantasy from reality, I suggest you seek professional help.

As far as what created the big bang, I already sufficiently answered that question in this thread. Perhaps you need to hone your reading comprehension skills as well.