(November 25, 2013 at 10:47 pm)Polaris Wrote:

(November 25, 2013 at 4:27 pm)Godlesspanther Wrote: I have noticed that if you ask a fundie whether they would prefer to live in a society in which same-sex marriage is legal or a society that allows slavery -- they get mad.

As I see it, they reason that this question bothers them so much is that it puts them in a bind. They are forced to admit that contemporary secular morality is obviously more advanced and rational than Biblical barbarism, or admit to being psychotic.

Here is a question for you....would you rather worship Allah or Moloch?

I'd rather live next door to a muslim than an atheist.

(November 25, 2013 at 10:06 pm)Kitanetos Wrote:

(November 25, 2013 at 10:05 pm)Drich Wrote: Slavery is not intrinsically bad. It is what man does with slavery that makes it evil..

You are reaching.

Is there some sort of mechanism that goes off in your mind that makes you protect your evil god no matter how logical the argument in support of his evilness?

If God's standard is not being used to determine good and evil then by what sliding scale am I supposedly defending God against?

(November 25, 2013 at 11:07 pm)Drich Wrote: If God's standard is not being used to determine good and evil then by what sliding scale am I supposedly defending God against?

Illogical and an obvious deflection from properly answering the original question.

(November 25, 2013 at 10:07 pm)freedomfromfallacy Wrote:

(November 25, 2013 at 9:47 pm)Drich Wrote: Whether that makes me a slave, slave owner or none of the above if we were forced to pick one of the two societies I will pick slavery.

I asked you how much for your family. Specifically, how much for your wife and daughter? I have cash and an agenda.

You do know in this soceity selling people is not legal. That said, if we live in the slavery soceity I would say make an offer.

(November 25, 2013 at 11:06 pm)Lion IRC Wrote:

(November 25, 2013 at 10:47 pm)Polaris Wrote: Here is a question for you....would you rather worship Allah or Moloch?

I'd rather live next door to a muslim than an atheist.

It really depends on the person, doesn't it?

(November 25, 2013 at 10:09 pm)Ivy Wrote:

(November 25, 2013 at 10:05 pm)Drich Wrote: Slavery is not intrinsically bad. It is what man does with slavery that makes it evil..

Claiming ownership of another human being and using them for your own wants is not intrinsically bad? How is it good? Or is it not intrinsically good or bad? It's neutral?

It's neutral. Do you have kids? Have you ever used the term "my kids?" Anyone using that term has expressed ownership of another human being. Even so do we consider this to be an evil thing?

Of course not, what makes ownership of another person good or bad is what you do with the life you have control over.

(November 25, 2013 at 11:14 pm)Drich Wrote: It's neutral. Do you have kids? Have you ever used the term "my kids?" Anyone using that term has expressed ownership of another human being.

Only the clearly psychotic claim ownership over another human.

You know, the type of individual who states, if I can't have you, no one can.

(November 25, 2013 at 11:13 pm)Polaris Wrote:

(November 25, 2013 at 11:06 pm)Lion IRC Wrote: I'd rather live next door to a muslim than an atheist.

It really depends on the person, doesn't it?

All things being equal, yes. Sure.
But atheism and (Abrahamic) monotheism are very very far apart.
How many of the Ten Commandments does an atheist regard as morally righteous?

(November 25, 2013 at 10:42 pm)Godlesspanther Wrote:

(November 25, 2013 at 9:47 pm)Drich Wrote: Not a hard choice to make. God set up a soceity that allowed for slavery, and condemned homosexuality. Therefore slavery is not as bad as homosexuality. The fact that soceity says that your intolerance should be reversed only speaks to declining 'morality' in soceity.

Whether that makes me a slave, slave owner or none of the above if we were forced to pick one of the two societies I will pick slavery.

I must say that it is not often nowadays that one encounters a person who is so enthusiastic about slavery.

Would you rather have slavery or an atheist President of the US?

The 'faith' of the president rarely reflects his actions. At least this has been true for a very long time.

(November 25, 2013 at 11:19 pm)Lion IRC Wrote:

(November 25, 2013 at 11:13 pm)Polaris Wrote: It really depends on the person, doesn't it?

All things being equal, yes. Sure.
But atheism and (Abrahamic) monotheism are very very far apart.
How many of the Ten Commandments does an atheist regard as morally righteous?

It really depends on the atheist. If they were the ideal atheist, the number would be 6 or 7.