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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
January 10, 2014 at 4:51 pm
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(October 10, 2013 at 10:11 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
The current “theory” is that the universe came into being from some explosion called the Big Bang. The standard Big Bang theory does not match smoothness of the cosmic background radiation. So the theory of Inflation was added to the standard Big Bang. That is the latest conjecture of modern science.
Now there are many problems with this “answer” to the origin of the universe. If nothing existed before the Big Bang, then the Big Bang violates a number of principle and laws of science. It violates conservation of mass-energy. The energy went from nothing to all the energy of the universe. It violates cause and effect. Nothing never just explodes and becomes something. It violates all observations, since nothing never just explodes into something. It also does not explain the origin of the laws of nature or why there is even order in the universe.
If something existed before the Big Bang, then the origin question is not answered at all. If the universe always existed, then the 2nd law of thermodynamics says that all order disappeared an infinite time ago. But that is not the case. Also there is still no explanation of the origin of the laws of nature or why there is even order in the universe.
Go read a friggin book! The big bang theory was actually started in the Roman Catholic church priest Georges Lemaitre. And just because science doesn't have a final answer to the universe, by default that does not make you correct about "god did it"
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
January 10, 2014 at 5:01 pm
(January 10, 2014 at 4:51 pm)xr34p3rx Wrote: (October 10, 2013 at 10:11 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
The current “theory” is that the universe came into being from some explosion called the Big Bang. The standard Big Bang theory does not match smoothness of the cosmic background radiation. So the theory of Inflation was added to the standard Big Bang. That is the latest conjecture of modern science.
Now there are many problems with this “answer” to the origin of the universe. If nothing existed before the Big Bang, then the Big Bang violates a number of principle and laws of science. It violates conservation of mass-energy. The energy went from nothing to all the energy of the universe. It violates cause and effect. Nothing never just explodes and becomes something. It violates all observations, since nothing never just explodes into something. It also does not explain the origin of the laws of nature or why there is even order in the universe.
If something existed before the Big Bang, then the origin question is not answered at all. If the universe always existed, then the 2nd law of thermodynamics says that all order disappeared an infinite time ago. But that is not the case. Also there is still no explanation of the origin of the laws of nature or why there is even order in the universe.
Go read a friggin book! The big bang theory was actually started in the Roman Catholic church priest Georges Lemaitre. And just because science doesn't have a final answer to the universe, by default that does not make you correct about "god did it"
the bible was first to mention the big bang model; so read a book.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
January 10, 2014 at 5:03 pm
Read more than 1.....
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
January 10, 2014 at 5:34 pm
(January 10, 2014 at 5:01 pm)snowtracks Wrote: the bible was first to mention the big bang model
Let's examine this claim. Here's a summary of the Big Bang theory from Wikipedia:
Quote:According to the theory, the Big Bang occurred approximately 13.798 ± 0.037 billion years ago,[2][3][4][5][6] which is thus considered the age of the universe.[7][8][9][10] At this time, the Universe was in an extremely hot and dense state and began expanding rapidly. After the initial expansion, the Universe cooled sufficiently to allow energy to be converted into various subatomic particles, including protons, neutrons, and electrons. Though simple atomic nuclei formed within the first three minutes after the Big Bang, thousands of years passed before the first electrically neutral atoms formed. The majority of atoms that were produced by the Big Bang are hydrogen, along with helium and traces of lithium. Giant clouds of these primordial elements later coalesced through gravity to form stars and galaxies, and the heavier elements were synthesized either within stars or during supernovae.
Where does your bible describe ANY of these phenomena?
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January 10, 2014 at 6:39 pm
(January 10, 2014 at 5:01 pm)snowtracks Wrote: the bible was first to mention the big bang model; so read a book.
Quote it, word for word.
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January 10, 2014 at 8:55 pm
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(January 10, 2014 at 5:34 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: (January 10, 2014 at 5:01 pm)snowtracks Wrote: the bible was first to mention the big bang model
Let's examine this claim. Here's a summary of the Big Bang theory from Wikipedia:
Quote:According to the theory, the Big Bang occurred approximately 13.798 ± 0.037 billion years ago,[2][3][4][5][6] which is thus considered the age of the universe.[7][8][9][10] At this time, the Universe was in an extremely hot and dense state and began expanding rapidly. After the initial expansion, the Universe cooled sufficiently to allow energy to be converted into various subatomic particles, including protons, neutrons, and electrons. Though simple atomic nuclei formed within the first three minutes after the Big Bang, thousands of years passed before the first electrically neutral atoms formed. The majority of atoms that were produced by the Big Bang are hydrogen, along with helium and traces of lithium. Giant clouds of these primordial elements later coalesced through gravity to form stars and galaxies, and the heavier elements were synthesized either within stars or during supernovae.
Where does your bible describe ANY of these phenomena? not respectful to post 'your' bible.
(January 10, 2014 at 6:39 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: (January 10, 2014 at 5:01 pm)snowtracks Wrote: the bible was first to mention the big bang model; so read a book.
Quote it, word for word.
hey castrol, who put in charge to start commanding?
you know it's in the bible, so stop playing dumb.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
January 10, 2014 at 8:59 pm
(January 10, 2014 at 8:55 pm)snowtracks Wrote: not respectful to post 'your' bible.
Well it's not OUR bible.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
January 10, 2014 at 9:09 pm
(January 10, 2014 at 8:55 pm)snowtracks Wrote: (January 10, 2014 at 5:34 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Let's examine this claim. Here's a summary of the Big Bang theory from Wikipedia:
Where does your bible describe ANY of these phenomena? not respectful to post 'your' bible.
It sure as hell isn't mine.
That was a transparent dodge, by the way. Claim dismissed.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
January 10, 2014 at 9:11 pm
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He stretches out the heavens like a canopy. Isaiah 40:22
But God made the earth by his power; he founded the world by his wisdom and stretched out the heavens by his understanding.
Jeremiah 10:13, 51:15
the prophet appeals to all ages and nations, not just wiki.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
January 10, 2014 at 9:49 pm
(January 10, 2014 at 9:11 pm)snowtracks Wrote: He stretches out the heavens like a canopy. Isaiah 40:22
But God made the earth by his power; he founded the world by his wisdom and stretched out the heavens by his understanding.
Jeremiah 10:13, 51:15
...and that relates to the bullet points of the BBT that I posted precisely how?
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