Satan won the War in Heaven, then rewrote the Book to make himself the good guy. Happens all the time. The amusing point is that people who worship God are really worshipping Satan.

Prove me wrong!

Satan runs hell like a sort of roller disco cafe. Basically if you reject christianity/god you've got to listen to rockabilly and eat fries, FOREVER.

(January 22, 2014 at 12:55 pm)max-greece Wrote: So Satan isn't in Hell? He's here?

Now I'm really confused. Is there any torture in Hell (other than the heat) or not? If so - who's doing it?

You should read the Bible the answers are there. There is no torture in hell, not one place in scripture mentions the word torture. People who are in hell will have a body of flesh, we know this because all will be raised to life from the grave, the unforgiven will be in hell and the forgiven in Christ through the grace of God will be in heaven.
Those in hell will not be burning with fire, hell is a dark place. The torment of each person will be by that person, God is going to allow each person their full rage of hate against Him, each person will be consumed by hate and the despair it brings to each one. The more one hated God in this life the more hate that person will suffer in hell, so there will be different levels of torment for each person according to the way they lived their lives against God. This is the answer to the age old question, will people suffer different levels of punishment, yes and by their own self. A person will hear the torment of others as they cry out against God, people will not see each other in hell only hear the insanely awful sounds of complete misery of others, this will be the equal punishment of hell for disobedience against the Creator who offered equal salvation for all. Everyone in hell and in heaven will know exactly why those in hell are there and they will know justice was served properly and without fault. Those in hell will wish for the torment of the flames, it would been an easier punishment, if you know someone who lives life with hate just observe their displeasure with life and the agony hate brings to them, multiply that by eternity and examine the horror one will put themselves through, yes the punishment that a person receives in hell is self inflicted.

GC

(January 22, 2014 at 9:02 am)max-greece Wrote:

(January 22, 2014 at 7:39 am)ThePinsir Wrote: I'm not so sure Satan's actually doing the torturing. He's actually being burned, too. And weeping and gnashing his teeth.

...or something like that...

First time I ever heard that version. Where did you get it from?

Also - who's doing the torturing?

Read Revelations its all in there lol

(January 22, 2014 at 9:09 am)Tea Earl Grey Hot Wrote:

(January 22, 2014 at 9:02 am)max-greece Wrote: First time I ever heard that version. Where did you get it from?

Also - who's doing the torturing?

No one. It's the place itself that's doing the torturing.

Don't no about that. The wicked place themselves outside the goodness of God. Where good is rejected evil prevails. The torture comes from treating everyone around you poorly and vice versus.

(January 22, 2014 at 2:30 pm)Gawdzilla Wrote: Satan won the War in Heaven, then rewrote the Book to make himself the good guy. Happens all the time. The amusing point is that people who worship God are really worshipping Satan.

Prove me wrong!

Actually according to gnostic Christian beliefs you are 100pct correct. Look up Sophia it will explain all

(January 23, 2014 at 7:07 pm)Godschild Wrote:

(January 22, 2014 at 12:55 pm)max-greece Wrote: So Satan isn't in Hell? He's here?

Now I'm really confused. Is there any torture in Hell (other than the heat) or not? If so - who's doing it?

You should read the Bible the answers are there. There is no torture in hell, not one place in scripture mentions the word torture. People who are in hell will have a body of flesh, we know this because all will be raised to life from the grave, the unforgiven will be in hell and the forgiven in Christ through the grace of God will be in heaven.
Those in hell will not be burning with fire, hell is a dark place. The torment of each person will be by that person, God is going to allow each person their full rage of hate against Him, each person will be consumed by hate and the despair it brings to each one. The more one hated God in this life the more hate that person will suffer in hell, so there will be different levels of torment for each person according to the way they lived their lives against God. This is the answer to the age old question, will people suffer different levels of punishment, yes and by their own self. A person will hear the torment of others as they cry out against God, people will not see each other in hell only hear the insanely awful sounds of complete misery of others, this will be the equal punishment of hell for disobedience against the Creator who offered equal salvation for all. Everyone in hell and in heaven will know exactly why those in hell are there and they will know justice was served properly and without fault. Those in hell will wish for the torment of the flames, it would been an easier punishment, if you know someone who lives life with hate just observe their displeasure with life and the agony hate brings to them, multiply that by eternity and examine the horror one will put themselves through, yes the punishment that a person receives in hell is self inflicted.

GC

What is someone doesn't hate god? What if they just don't believe he is real?
There are a lot of non believers that are not haters.

(January 22, 2014 at 2:30 pm)Gawdzilla Wrote: Satan won the War in Heaven, then rewrote the Book to make himself the good guy. Happens all the time. The amusing point is that people who worship God are really worshipping Satan.

Prove me wrong!

A rose by any other name...

Take comfort that you will spend eternity away from my 'satan,' and I will spend eternity away form yours... Now, your turn prove me wrong.

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(January 23, 2014 at 10:37 pm)KUSA Wrote:

(January 23, 2014 at 7:07 pm)Godschild Wrote: You should read the Bible the answers are there. There is no torture in hell, not one place in scripture mentions the word torture. People who are in hell will have a body of flesh, we know this because all will be raised to life from the grave, the unforgiven will be in hell and the forgiven in Christ through the grace of God will be in heaven.
Those in hell will not be burning with fire, hell is a dark place. The torment of each person will be by that person, God is going to allow each person their full rage of hate against Him, each person will be consumed by hate and the despair it brings to each one. The more one hated God in this life the more hate that person will suffer in hell, so there will be different levels of torment for each person according to the way they lived their lives against God. This is the answer to the age old question, will people suffer different levels of punishment, yes and by their own self. A person will hear the torment of others as they cry out against God, people will not see each other in hell only hear the insanely awful sounds of complete misery of others, this will be the equal punishment of hell for disobedience against the Creator who offered equal salvation for all. Everyone in hell and in heaven will know exactly why those in hell are there and they will know justice was served properly and without fault. Those in hell will wish for the torment of the flames, it would been an easier punishment, if you know someone who lives life with hate just observe their displeasure with life and the agony hate brings to them, multiply that by eternity and examine the horror one will put themselves through, yes the punishment that a person receives in hell is self inflicted.

GC

What is someone doesn't hate god? What if they just don't believe he is real?
There are a lot of non believers that are not haters.

They will be judged or put through the same process we all will and Christ will decide what they really feel.

Heres the mistake ur god made.. he gave me this awesome life that im going to live to the fullest!! .. and gave me a chose to believe in him which is absurd. .. and according to ur book im probably going to hell......well, im loving this life sooo much that Il take what is next for me.. to the dungeon I gooooo..

I do not concern myself with the choices you guys make. God has seen fit to give you complete autonomy in this area of your life. My job here is to help you with any questions you may have in making your choice. Not to approve or disapprove the decision you make. My focus is to prevent anyone to default to a stock answer simply because they don't know of anything else to do. I am to add the contrast needed to help you see the choice you have to make.

I'm not here to sell or sugar coat anything, just offer truth when it is asked of me.