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Does Satan work for God?
#11
RE: Does Satan work for God?
(January 22, 2014 at 10:06 am)truthBtold Wrote: Judaism= Satan is gods helper. Christianity= Lucifer is a fallen angel.
Judaism= no hell. Christianity= hell.
Judaism= original. Christianity= not original.

No way. Really? That's pretty interesting. Got any links? Or verses?
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#12
RE: Does Satan work for God?
(January 22, 2014 at 10:18 am)ThePinsir Wrote:
(January 22, 2014 at 10:06 am)truthBtold Wrote: Judaism= Satan is gods helper. Christianity= Lucifer is a fallen angel.
Judaism= no hell. Christianity= hell.
Judaism= original. Christianity= not original.

No way. Really? That's pretty interesting. Got any links? Or verses?

http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_sat2.htm
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#13
RE: Does Satan work for God?
So basically anyone that could explain to Satan how air conditioning works is going to be a big hit down-under (as in Hell not Australia).

Should be a breeze then - no worries, in fact.
Kuusi palaa, ja on viimeinen kerta kun annan vaimoni laittaa jouluvalot!
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#14
RE: Does Satan work for God?
(January 22, 2014 at 10:46 am)truthBtold Wrote: http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_sat2.htm

Wow. Thanks.
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#15
RE: Does Satan work for God?
(January 22, 2014 at 7:30 am)max-greece Wrote: There is something that doesn't make any sense to me that I'd like input on:

If you don't worship God/Jesus you go to hell.
Yes.

Quote:Satan punishes those in hell (because they didn't worship God/Jesus).
No, Hell was created for Satan and the fallen. They are punished there. They dread Hell as we Dread Hell (per the encounter Jesus had with Legion) and several other points in scripture.

This world is the closest thing Satan has to a kingdom. (which is why bad things happen to good people.)

Quote:Why? Surely Satan will be waiting for you to give you a pat on the back for rejecting God as he did? What is Satan punishing you for exactly? Does Satan want you to worship God afterall?
Satan will be experiencing torment fear and dred for eternity, which means he will be alittle too busy withhis situation to concern himself with yours..

Quote:Makes no sense to me. You?
That's probably because in the darkages well meaning church folk mixed greek and roman mythology with the bible to create a Hades/lucifer hybrid.

(January 22, 2014 at 10:06 am)truthBtold Wrote: Judaism= Satan is gods helper. Christianity= Lucifer is a fallen angel.
Judaism= no hell. Christianity= hell.
Judaism= original. Christianity= not original.

Judaism=Satan is subservent to God (Per Book of Job)

Christianity Satan is still subservent to God Per Jesus' ablity to Command him to 'get behind Him' and to cast out demons.

Judaism= Follow God's command get a long life. Disobey God receive death.

Christianity= Follow God's command, get eternal life (which without a doubt is a long time) Disobey God's command get cast into Hell which Christ described it as our second death.

Judaism= Grammer School level Theology concerning the God of the bible.

Christianity= Graduate studies under God Himself concerning the same topic.
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#16
RE: Does Satan work for God?
Quote:Satan serves as a servant of YHVH, with whom he also shares a philosophy of black and white. Satan is commonly associated with temptation of God, and is often portrayed as judgmental.
Wait...something tells me this isn't what you are looking for. Tongue

On a (potentially) more accurate note, from the same page:
Quote:History
Satan is a prominent figure in the Abrahamic religions, playing various roles in their literature. He may either be depicted as a rebel to the will of God, or as one who tempts mankind to commit sin to show God that mankind can easily be led astray from Him. In Judaism, particularly in the Book of Job and the Kabbalah, Satan is even able to take control of the life of a person in the stead of God, though only to a limited extent to what God allows. Satan would appear to those who are sinful, playing into their hearts and towing them into despair. In Christian literature other than the Bible, when God commanded the angels to bow to the first human, Adam, Satan (then an angel called Lucifer or Helel) rallied other angels against this command with the belief that angels are above all other creations. He and other "fallen angels" fought against the forces of God and were utterly defeated; as a result, Satan was cast down into hell.

I would say that he is only a 'servant' in the sense of being a cosmological pawn in god's master plan. But aren't we all?

If god has a plan and is omniscient, he must have created Satan to deliberately orchestrate the fall and the events in the Book of Revelation.
John Adams Wrote:The Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.
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#17
RE: Does Satan work for God?
(January 22, 2014 at 11:50 am)Drich Wrote:
(January 22, 2014 at 7:30 am)max-greece Wrote: There is something that doesn't make any sense to me that I'd like input on:

If you don't worship God/Jesus you go to hell.
Yes.

Quote:Satan punishes those in hell (because they didn't worship God/Jesus).
No, Hell was created for Satan and the fallen. They are punished there. They dread Hell as we Dread Hell (per the encounter Jesus had with Legion) and several other points in scripture.

This world is the closest thing Satan has to a kingdom. (which is why bad things happen to good people.)

Quote:Why? Surely Satan will be waiting for you to give you a pat on the back for rejecting God as he did? What is Satan punishing you for exactly? Does Satan want you to worship God afterall?
Satan will be experiencing torment fear and dred for eternity, which means he will be alittle too busy withhis situation to concern himself with yours..

Quote:Makes no sense to me. You?
That's probably because in the darkages well meaning church folk mixed greek and roman mythology with the bible to create a Hades/lucifer hybrid.

(January 22, 2014 at 10:06 am)truthBtold Wrote: Judaism= Satan is gods helper. Christianity= Lucifer is a fallen angel.
Judaism= no hell. Christianity= hell.
Judaism= original. Christianity= not original.

Judaism=Satan is subservent to God (Per Book of Job)

Christianity Satan is still subservent to God Per Jesus' ablity to Command him to 'get behind Him' and to cast out demons.

Judaism= Follow God's command get a long life. Disobey God receive death.

Christianity= Follow God's command, get eternal life (which without a doubt is a long time) Disobey God's command get cast into Hell which Christ described it as our second death.

Judaism= Grammer School level Theology concerning the God of the bible.

Christianity= Graduate studies under God Himself concerning the same topic.

OH SNAP
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#18
RE: Does Satan work for God?
Do you suppose they're like Santa and Black Peter?
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#19
RE: Does Satan work for God?
So Satan isn't in Hell? He's here?

Now I'm really confused. Is there any torture in Hell (other than the heat) or not? If so - who's doing it?
Kuusi palaa, ja on viimeinen kerta kun annan vaimoni laittaa jouluvalot!
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#20
RE: Does Satan work for God?
(January 22, 2014 at 12:33 pm)BrokenQuill92 Wrote: Do you suppose they're like Santa and Black Peter?

I feel I walking into a trap that a blind person can see, but I'll bite anyway.

What's a black peter?

I tried to google it and all sorts of inappropriate things came up.
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