Alex Rosenberg, (in his book "An atheists guide to reality") at last an honest atheist who admits that ultimately atheism when taken to its logical conclusion leads to lack in intentionality, lack of meaning or purpose in life and nihilism. If only a few more atheists admitted this to the general public we would be a lot better off. The true colours of atheism are coming out.
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An atheists guide to reality
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Then he should go kill himself.
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March 2, 2014 at 12:58 pm
(This post was last modified: March 2, 2014 at 1:00 pm by Mr. Moncrieff.)
His views on supervenience are rather flawed.
He has considerations that social hierarchy is predicated upon the simplest forms of natural existence. This position largely excuses us as responsible moral beings and thus encourages a nihilistic outlook on life. It's rather bleak to hold that regard yes. But he doesn't define all atheists, just as the Westboro Baptists don't represent all of Christianity. (March 2, 2014 at 12:58 pm)Mr. Moncrieff Wrote: His views on supervenience are rather flawed. The problem for atheists is that his position is logically consistent with atheism, its the atheists that try to maintain that intentionality, meaning, purpose in life etc are consistent with atheism that have the problem. I agree with Rosenberg, I just wish other atheists would face the problem and admit that's logically where you end up, empty, meaningless and pointless existence RE: An atheists guide to reality
March 2, 2014 at 1:09 pm
(This post was last modified: March 2, 2014 at 1:10 pm by Mr. Moncrieff.)
When Christians all start admitting that they are focusing their one existence on worshipping a figment of their primeval fear.
A guy in the sky who made them purely because he wanted attention and validation? A supreme being so understanding of the human inadequacies he imbued, that he would condemn them in a heartbeat for daring to question him? When that happens. (March 2, 2014 at 1:06 pm)StatCrux Wrote: The problem for atheists is that his position is logically consistent with atheism, its the atheists that try to maintain that intentionality, meaning, purpose in life etc are consistent with atheism that have the problem. I agree with Rosenberg, I just wish other atheists would face the problem and admit that's logically where you end up, empty, meaningless and pointless existence Individually and socially determined meaning is still meaning, it's not invalid because some other people decided to label theirs extra special and omniscient. A lake has no intentionality either, that doesn't sap all the joy out of swimming in it. You're trying to erect a problem where there isn't one.
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Want to see more of my writing? Check out my (safe for work!) site, Unprotected Sects! (March 2, 2014 at 1:09 pm)Mr. Moncrieff Wrote: When Christians all start admitting that they are focusing their one existence on worshipping a figment of their primeval fear. Ah, is this where you get to tell me what I believe? Sky daddy, cannibalism and all other such intellectual pearls of wisdom.. (March 2, 2014 at 1:06 pm)StatCrux Wrote:(March 2, 2014 at 12:58 pm)Mr. Moncrieff Wrote: His views on supervenience are rather flawed. You have obviously confused us with people who give a flying fuck what you think. RE: An atheists guide to reality
March 2, 2014 at 1:22 pm
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Well StatCrux, I fail to see the great disadvantage of having overcome the simplistic and childish notions of meaning which you seem to advertise, and the reliance on a sense of purpose which has to be provided by some father figure. I call the process of overcoming this "growing up", you know...
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