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Proving god with logic?
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RE: Proving god with logic?
March 21, 2014 at 7:49 pm
(March 21, 2014 at 7:25 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:Will do from now on. It seems impossible, and kind of a dick move to take in a discussion/debate,


My complaint with this logic shit is that no one ever insists that the premises be factual.

If someone claims God "x" they better be damned well ready to prove that 'god' exists.

They always want to skip that point.

i remember telling this person that but yes they do in fact dodge the question
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RE: Proving god with logic?
March 21, 2014 at 7:49 pm
(March 21, 2014 at 7:49 pm)xr34p3rx Wrote:
(March 21, 2014 at 7:25 pm)Minimalist Wrote: My complaint with this logic shit is that no one ever insists that the premises be factual.

If someone claims God "x" they better be damned well ready to prove that 'god' exists.

They always want to skip that point.

i remember telling this person that but yes they do in fact dodge the question

Then it's time to use violence.
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RE: Proving god with logic?
March 21, 2014 at 7:53 pm
(March 21, 2014 at 7:49 pm)tor Wrote:
(March 21, 2014 at 7:49 pm)xr34p3rx Wrote: i remember telling this person that but yes they do in fact dodge the question

Then it's time to use violence.

lol i get real frustrated but i shouldnt get hostile Wink so i just facepalm it out
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#44
RE: Proving god with logic?
March 21, 2014 at 7:59 pm
Nothing wrong with a little hostility when confronted with stupidity.
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#45
Proving god with logic?
March 21, 2014 at 8:14 pm
(March 21, 2014 at 7:25 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:Will do from now on. It seems impossible, and kind of a dick move to take in a discussion/debate,


My complaint with this logic shit is that no one ever insists that the premises be factual.

If someone claims God "x" they better be damned well ready to prove that 'god' exists.

They always want to skip that point.

I'm fond of telling people the KCA (the most commonly used ontological argument) was designed to show Allah exists, not Yaweh.

They often insist the God it refers to doesn't matter, as it is "proof" of God's existence: and they already know they're worshipping the right one, so...
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#46
RE: Proving god with logic?
March 21, 2014 at 9:20 pm (This post was last modified: March 21, 2014 at 9:20 pm by Mystic.)
(March 21, 2014 at 7:22 pm)Deidre32 Wrote: If a god can be proven, faith would be unnecessary. If I were still a theist...I'd just throw that at you, and the discussion would be over. lol :p

Faith is always necessary but it can be built on faith in other premises that point towards God. For example if you reflect on greatness and morality and you deem it to need an eternal objective source as it's basis, then this premise may lead you to faith in God but you would also need faith in those premises along side with the faith in morality and greatness. Also, if you know a certain thing needs to have been designed by a cosmic designer, this would lead you to conclude in a cosmic designer. While that doesn't prove it's worthy of worship, perhaps reflection over the nature of life would make you believe that the Creator has attributes making it worthy of worship.
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#47
RE: Proving god with logic?
March 21, 2014 at 9:27 pm
It's just flat out impossible. Plain and simple. Disregarding beliefs, people will sometimes interpret evidence however they see fit.
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#48
RE: Proving god with logic?
March 21, 2014 at 11:08 pm
http://For example if you reflect on gre...greatness.


You can "deem" anything you like but as far as I am concerned without concrete evidence it is simply bullshit.

And "faith" be "deemed."
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