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Is Unbelief Possible?
RE: Is Unbelief Possible?
(March 23, 2014 at 10:21 am)Belev2Know Wrote: s;

I do not understand the reference to your slang for the beautiful coital acts say in a marriage of defined man and woman ...

However
what is your question about which idea or sentence, scientifically?

Now when I make some time, I will try to clarify.

C U Soon

Oh, please don't trick yourself into thinking I can't understand you because you are talking too "scientifically." You may be a refrigerator specialist, but I'm an aeronautical engineer, I've seen my fair share of scientific literature.

My problem is that your grasp of english is tenuous at best. My 4 year old nephew writes me better emails. I think you're a troll, because randomly some of your sentences are structured somewhat properly, and it's usually when you're charged about something. Also, no one with even a moderate grasp of english (i.e. uses words like conjecture, tangent, and coital) doesn't understand what/why the word "fuck" is used. There are curses in every language, and, magically, a lot of them have to do with "coitus." To pretend that you are mystified by this is what cements it for me.

In other words, go away.
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RE: Is Unbelief Possible?
(March 23, 2014 at 7:12 am)Belev2Know Wrote: It is why I await real questions about OP and OP reply's sticking to a thread, and not adjectival judgements nor cliche phrase-generality, - such as seeing belief exists in all 'unbelief' or one is not communicating on any bloggable level.

I'm sorry if I am not phrasing things well at times, but if you ask me what to elaborate on or if you communicate to me what you want me to clarify I would be willing to do so for the sake of continuing healthy discussion.

I don't want to hinder but spark discussion. And I would hope discussion would continue with or without me to babysit it. And I'm sorry for my lack of response, I do have a busy life outside of this forum that I would like to maintain, but I make an effort to catch up on the thread best I can at least once a day.

Quote:My problem is that your grasp of english is tenuous at best. My 4 year old nephew writes me better emails. I think you're a troll, because randomly some of your sentences are structured somewhat properly, and it's usually when you're charged about something. Also, no one with even a moderate grasp of english (i.e. uses words like conjecture, tangent, and coital) doesn't understand what/why the word "fuck" is used. There are curses in every language, and, magically, a lot of them have to do with "coitus." To pretend that you are mystified by this is what cements it for me.
I think you nailed it on the head best.
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RE: Is Unbelief Possible?
Hez:

1) I tend to agree that there really is not any unbelief , just another foundation of believing, and by able minded as well.
I was addressing the respondee, as well. Thank you for the thread.

2) my 3.85 in Engineering Science was in part relative to such a thread- as an English teacher, in one quarter, read my paper to the class about something unusual... and that the mid 70's.

if ideas of "grasping" and "engineering " and believing or unbelieving were so simple, then whewww! anyone could pick any engineer's or other's postings just once and be enlightened and ready for life's coping's....


Why so many interject their claimed "all understand" ~ basis from which all those one's threads are with adjectival-unrelated to OP commentary wording, continues to elude me... and will .
-Simply is not my vocabulary, not that of parents nor grands... 31 years marriage , 56 parents, and 53 years of the grands, I spent over 25 years around that couple...

If this is a thinking site, and not mere belief in unbelief, i will continue to ask the basis for unrelated adjectival spew.
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RE: Is Unbelief Possible?
(March 23, 2014 at 11:48 am)Belev2Know Wrote: Hez:

1) I tend to agree that there really is not any unbelief , just another foundation of believing, and by able minded as well.
I was addressing the respondee, as well. Thank you for the thread.

2) my 3.85 in Engineering Science was in part relative to such a thread- as an English teacher, in one quarter, read my paper to the class about something unusual... and that the mid 70's.

if ideas of "grasping" and "engineering " and believing or unbelieving were so simple, then whewww! anyone could pick any engineer's or other's postings just once and be enlightened and ready for life's coping's....


Why so many interject their claimed "all understand" ~ basis from which all those one's threads are with adjectival-unrelated to OP commentary wording, continues to elude me... and will .
-Simply is not my vocabulary, not that of parents nor grands... 31 years marriage , 56 parents, and 53 years of the grands, I spent over 25 years around that couple...

If this is a thinking site, and not mere belief in unbelief, i will continue to ask the basis for unrelated adjectival spew.

I think I understand what you are trying to say, but just to clarify I will attempt to paraphrase it:

1) You're saying you agree that pure unbelief cannot exist because their are layers of belief that our foundational for human living. And you were addressing a response to a previous user, (and thanks! You're welcome for the thread!)

2) Your knowledge or way of thought on this topic is influenced by your knowledge and experience in Engineering Science. You wrote about this at one point(?)...and I'm not sure what you mean by
Quote:read my paper to the class about something unusual... and that the mid 70's.

3) If the ideas of belief were so simple then anyone could pick up the ideas of Engineering Science, which is a very complicated and in-depth study. (Not too sure how that connection is made if you wouldn't mind clarifying).

4) You don't understand why so many of the people in this thread claim full understanding of a topic to the degree of drawing dogmatic conclusions.
Quote:~ basis from which all those one's threads are with adjectival-unrelated to OP commentary wording, continues to elude me... and will .
Not sure what you mean here but maybe something about how, whatever it is, it is unrelated from my lack of wording. (also, "adjectival"? Not sure what you mean by that)

5)
Quote:Simply is not my vocabulary, not that of parents nor grands... 31 years marriage , 56 parents, and 53 years of the grands, I spent over 25 years around that couple...
I think that you're trying to explain why you talk the way you do, but the phrasing of years married is awkwardly organized and I don't see the connection between marriage and your language skills, especially if you're writing papers on Engineering Science with an acclaimed 3.85 GPA.

6)
Quote:If this is a thinking site, and not mere belief in unbelief, i will continue to ask the basis for unrelated adjectival spew.
I think you're saying if this is a website dedicated to thinking and not merely ideas on belief and unbelief, you will continue to question what is the point of unrelated adjectival(?) garbage.

To number 3 I would reply:
Quote:Entities should not be multiplied unnecessarily. -William of Ockham
In other words, "the simplest explanation is usually the right one". I don't believe this is the case with everything, and I do think you can find exception to this, but that's not my entire point. My point is, belief is something everyone is capable of to a degree. I think we established and agreed earlier that you can't have pure unbelief. So we can assume that since every human is capable of belief that every human has understanding of how belief works to a degree, because its an unavoidable experience. And we established earlier also that experience is knowledge. So with all these pieces I would twist your phrase "If the ideas of belief were so simple then anyone could pick up the ideas" to say that this is indeed true. The ideas of belief are simple, and anyone can pick them up to a degree. However, I still don't see how a basic understanding of what belief is could threaten your knowledge of Engineering Science if you would like to clarify your point.

To number 6 I would reply: A question about whether unbelief is possible is not forcing or assuming an actual belief system onto an individual, but rather is meant to ask the individual to think about what unbelief means to them and add their interpretation to discussion- Healthy debate.
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RE: Is Unbelief Possible?
T'sHez:
Not about relation to engineering science other than Avionic Egr posting some elusive adjectives with resume, seemed time for me to chime mine, but without all the adjectival expression which has no meaning to OP's generally seen as I read through this site.

Hey a sacred thing is a belief too, and well, if everything comes from nothing, then all the desire to just use subjects and predicates requested of me by others will be severely clouded by repetitive references to the beauty i find in a marriage bed. to further say undefiled would be merely a beliefism, though.

I see your point counters to mine, or acceptance, but it is more sosimply put:
We all believe, even if it is in an English phrase " non-believer " as that is a thing/thought to believe in.

bridging the acclaimed "science as a knowledge of ~" -of some thing "factual" leads to all the arguing I see rampant in this website. But knowingly there are lions in the streets, and I will not sluggardly stay "home".

Pretty close Hez:
"I think you're saying if this is a website dedicated to thinking and not merely ideas on belief and unbelief, you will continue to question what is the point of unrelated adjectival(?) garbage."

Specifically, if it is not in my writing nor speaking, it will be questioned as to why use of or what is the basis of a particular adjective, repeatedly appearing just so out of place of one's OP.

a-adjectively writing , that is in my judgement...
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