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The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
(March 31, 2014 at 4:36 pm)Revelation777 Wrote:
(March 31, 2014 at 4:23 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: Name one contemporary historian of Jesus who wrote about him.

There are none. Josephus wasn't a contemporary.

Matthew, Mark, Luke, John

You'd be better off citing John, Paul, George and Ringo. At least they existed.

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RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
(March 28, 2014 at 10:39 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: We are reminded of this event every day. Not a day goes by where you don't hear His name mentioned, hear a song praising Him, drive by a church, see someone wearing a cross, or hear a verse from the Bible.

Jesus predicted His death and resurrection while He was alive. He tomb was empty on three days after His death. He appeared to His disciples. These men's lives were changed and God used them to change the world. Paul and 500 others have seen the risen Christ. The early church grew greatly even with terrible persecution speaks of the power of this Truth. Greatest evidence is the transformation of millions of lives of born again believers.

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RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
(March 31, 2014 at 4:36 pm)Revelation777 Wrote:
(March 31, 2014 at 4:23 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: Name one contemporary historian of Jesus who wrote about him.

There are none. Josephus wasn't a contemporary.

Matthew, Mark, Luke, John

A claim, not evidence.

What else have you got?
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RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
I'll never understand the point of this, Rev777. You are doing nothing to change anyone's mind. What is your purpose here? If it's really to preach, you are truly, utterly terrible at it.
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The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
(March 31, 2014 at 6:17 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: I'll never understand the point of this, Rev777. You are doing nothing to change anyone's mind. What is your purpose here? If it's really to preach, you are truly, utterly terrible at it.

I'm guessing it has to do with some sort of pathetic "missionary" endeavor.

If he can preach enough, maybe it will earn him brownie points in Heaven and make him a prettier angel.
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RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
(March 31, 2014 at 6:22 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote:
(March 31, 2014 at 6:17 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: I'll never understand the point of this, Rev777. You are doing nothing to change anyone's mind. What is your purpose here? If it's really to preach, you are truly, utterly terrible at it.

I'm guessing it has to do with some sort of pathetic "missionary" endeavor.

If he can preach enough, maybe it will earn him brownie points in Heaven and make him a prettier angel.

Maybe whatever version of whatever god it is he worships will give him the wooden spoon for being the best loser.
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The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
(March 31, 2014 at 6:23 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote:
(March 31, 2014 at 6:22 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: I'm guessing it has to do with some sort of pathetic "missionary" endeavor.

If he can preach enough, maybe it will earn him brownie points in Heaven and make him a prettier angel.

Maybe whatever version of whatever god it is he worships will give him the wooden spoon for being the best loser.

Unfortunately I think it's worse than being patted on the head for being the best loser.

He actually thinks he's doing God's work by presenting unsubstantiated assertions about reality, in the belief that they might save a few souls from the eternal torment allowed by his all powerful, righteous God because somebody ate an Apple, and the Romans had particularly gruesome ways of putting people to death.

Does it make a lick of difference in this world to the everyday suffering of real people?

Nope.
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RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
Rev777...

You talk about Jesus, but do you know Christ?
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RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
Quote:I'll never understand the point of this, Rev777.

He thinks he's getting brownie points from his godboy.


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RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
(March 31, 2014 at 5:14 pm)Beccs Wrote:
(March 31, 2014 at 4:36 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: Matthew, Mark, Luke, John

You'd be better off citing John, Paul, George and Ringo. At least they existed.

Wink Shades

John was not exaggerating when he stated that they were bigger than Jesus.
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