(April 13, 2010 at 3:09 pm)Paul the Human Wrote: So, of course, that led you to believe that all atheists are simply angry with their parents. Are you really that sheltered?

Come on, are you trying to scare away all the theists?

Sherry

You are still a christian because the indoctrination by your abusive father, (against the feeble protests of your transexual mother), fell on to the fertile ground of the uneducated. I assume you were home schooled until the age of six when your education was considered enough to become a full member of the christian church.

Or am I making some crass unfounded and offensive assumptions?

Now where would I have got that idea?

(April 13, 2010 at 2:55 pm)Sherry Wrote: Why did you expect your parents to be flawless, and when you discovered they were only human like everyone else and imperfect, you assumed they were phony and hypocrites, and as a result you lost confidence in Christianity and belief in God?

No, I stopped believing due to immense fridge logic behind John 3:16; If it's really "The Gospel in a nutshell," the fact that it can be halved into "God sacrificed himself to himself to change a rule he made himself" really says a lot. And that's not getting into the unfortunate implications behind Genesis 3.

Incidentally, my relationship with my parents is actually pretty good. Admittedly, my mother is leery of my atheism, but then again, she was leery of me when I started reading Moby-Dick (surprisingly, reading Savage Grace or Journey to the End of the Night worried her little), but if I don't bring up the A-word to too many people (she prefers the term "Freethinker," since the term "atheism" tends to imply a certainty that Godel showed can't be applicable to Anything, and agnostic implies a state of indecision), she doesn't mind.

In short, do not apply Freudian Excuses to explain why anybody thinks differently than you. It only shows how naive you are.

(April 13, 2010 at 2:55 pm)Sherry Wrote: Why did you expect your parents to be flawless,

I never did. Well, maybe when I was a tiny child, so tiny that my parents seemed like gods to me.

Quote: and when you discovered they were only human like everyone else and imperfect, you assumed they were phony and hypocrites,

That never happened.

Quote: and as a result you lost confidence in Christianity and belief in God?

I never had 'confidence' in Christianity. I never really believed in a god at all. Sorry, nice try, but you can't read minds. You're only human like everyone else, and imperfect.

EvF

Quote:Why did you expect your parents to be flawless

Never did.

Quote:and when you discovered they were only human like everyone else and imperfect, you assumed they were phony and hypocrites

Never happened.

Quote:and as a result you lost confidence in Christianity and belief in God?

Never believed in god in the first place. Never had any faith. Was always an atheist.

(April 13, 2010 at 2:55 pm)Sherry Wrote: Why did you expect your parents to be flawless, and when you discovered they were only human like everyone else and imperfect, you assumed they were phony and hypocrites, and as a result you lost confidence in Christianity and belief in God?

I dunno really, my parents always seemed to perfect that I made the assumption at a young age that they were flawless. My pastor told me that parents were angels from heaven, so that kinda helped. Then of course, they started making mistakes; my mother overcooked my dinner, my father hit his thumb with a hammer...it was all very hushed up though. They'd go on living the lie and didn't think I noticed, but I did.

I slowly came to the conclusion that they were evil and had to go. So one night when they were sleeping I crept into their room with a meat cleaver...

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Hey, if she can be disingenuous, so can I.

(April 14, 2010 at 7:25 am)Tiberius Wrote:

(April 13, 2010 at 2:55 pm)Sherry Wrote: Why did you expect your parents to be flawless, and when you discovered they were only human like everyone else and imperfect, you assumed they were phony and hypocrites, and as a result you lost confidence in Christianity and belief in God?

I dunno really, my parents always seemed to perfect that I made the assumption at a young age that they were flawless. My pastor told me that parents were angels from heaven, so that kinda helped. Then of course, they started making mistakes; my mother overcooked my dinner, my father hit his thumb with a hammer...it was all very hushed up though. They'd go on living the lie and didn't think I noticed, but I did.

I slowly came to the conclusion that they were evil and had to go. So one night when they were sleeping I crept into their room with a meat cleaver...

That's so sad, and so familiar. If I had a pound for every time I'd heard a story like that

(April 14, 2010 at 7:25 am)Tiberius Wrote:

(April 13, 2010 at 2:55 pm)Sherry Wrote: Why did you expect your parents to be flawless, and when you discovered they were only human like everyone else and imperfect, you assumed they were phony and hypocrites, and as a result you lost confidence in Christianity and belief in God?

I dunno really, my parents always seemed to perfect that I made the assumption at a young age that they were flawless. My pastor told me that parents were angels from heaven, so that kinda helped. Then of course, they started making mistakes; my mother overcooked my dinner, my father hit his thumb with a hammer...it was all very hushed up though. They'd go on living the lie and didn't think I noticed, but I did.

I slowly came to the conclusion that they were evil and had to go. So one night when they were sleeping I crept into their room with a meat cleaver...

hock:

(April 13, 2010 at 2:55 pm)Sherry Wrote: Why did you expect your parents to be flawless, and when you discovered they were only human like everyone else and imperfect, you assumed they were phony and hypocrites, and as a result you lost confidence in Christianity and belief in God?

I may have once expected them to be flawless... but it sure wasn't long if that was indeed ever the case.

I actually would prefer them to be phony... then that would mean that their non-phony selves would be perhaps the opposite of their current phony selves. Now that I'm dreaming, I'd like a pony...

I lost confidence in Christianity and its gods as a result of a number of things. My parents likely were not one of them... i hate them primarily for other reasons.

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(April 13, 2010 at 4:08 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: Sherry

You are still a christian because the indoctrination by your abusive father, (against the feeble protests of your transexual mother), fell on to the fertile ground of the uneducated. I assume you were home schooled until the age of six when your education was considered enough to become a full member of the christian church.

:S Now now... you're going to scare off whatever maternal instincts I posses! : o

Quote:Or am I making some crass unfounded and offensive assumptions?

Now where would I have got that idea?

Because it's basically the OP written again elsewhere from a different viewpoint?

(April 14, 2010 at 8:12 am)Saerules Wrote: Because it's basically the OP written again elsewhere from a different viewpoint?

Today's "Way to State the Obvious" award goes to.........