(April 15, 2014 at 1:46 pm)Coffee Jesus Wrote: My initial response expressed the idea that, although the mind deteriorates with the brain, it doesn't follow that the mind will totally disappear with the brain. But I think we can take for granted that whatever would remain of the "mind" (if you can still call it that) would not be you. It would suffer from every brain deficit possible: no memory (amnesia), no sensory awareness (blind, deaf, numb), no emotion (sociopathy, girl with no fear, etc.), possible partitioning (commissurotomy). In short, it won't be you unless your brain is somehow recreated in the future or some other dimension.

Some Jews actually don't believe in an immediate after-life. They believe your body will be resurrected after the apocalypse for the new Jerusalem or something like that.

(April 15, 2014 at 4:26 pm)Brian37 Wrote: There is no "mind" there is just the brain in motion. The combo of our brain and motion is what we falsely call "mind" and what theists stupidly call "soul". Using the word "mind" to me is as stupid as conflating the word "speed" as being as material as the car itself while in motion. "Mind" to me is simply an abstract description of the uniqueness of our personalities. At best one could say "mind" is merely the uniqueness of the way our car speeds. I avoid the word "mind" like the plague because even liberals and atheists woo it up far too much for my taste.

I usually use "mind" to denote phenomenal experience, and it has meaning in that sense, but it's contentious what physical systems this sense of "mind" would refer to.

(April 14, 2014 at 6:40 pm)Deidre32 Wrote: There is no evidence that an after life exists or doesn't but why live your life as if you "know" there is one? That doesn't make sense.

I didn't believe in heaven/hell even as a Christian.

Were you ever a Christian?

(April 15, 2014 at 5:21 pm)Revelation777 Wrote:

(April 14, 2014 at 6:40 pm)Deidre32 Wrote: There is no evidence that an after life exists or doesn't but why live your life as if you "know" there is one? That doesn't make sense.

I didn't believe in heaven/hell even as a Christian.

Were you ever a Christian?

Who are you to question that? You "No True Scotsman" spewing jackass.

What do I believe will happen?

Well, I believe I'll finally be safe from the impending Zombie Apocalypse.

(April 13, 2014 at 3:47 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: Just curious what atheists and agnostics believe happen. Thank you ahead of time for your responses.

My wife asked me if I wanted to be buried or cremated, I said, 'surprise me'.

MM

(April 15, 2014 at 6:00 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: What do I believe will happen?

Well, I believe I'll finally be safe from the impending Zombie Apocalypse.

Perhaps you'll be leading the zombie apocalypse?

If I knew there was definitely going to be one, I wouldn't be cremated.

(April 15, 2014 at 1:46 pm)Coffee Jesus Wrote: My initial response expressed the idea that, although the mind deteriorates with the brain, it doesn't follow that the mind will totally disappear with the brain. But I think we can take for granted that whatever would remain of the "mind" (if you can still call it that) would not be you. It would suffer from every brain deficit possible: no memory (amnesia), no sensory awareness (blind, deaf, numb), no emotion (sociopathy, girl with no fear, etc.), possible partitioning (commissurotomy). In short, it won't be you unless your brain is somehow recreated in the future or some other dimension.

Some Jews actually don't believe in an immediate after-life. They believe your body will be resurrected after the apocalypse for the new Jerusalem or something like that.

Without a physical brain, there is no mind.

All the evidence available points to the mind, including all that is you, ceases to exist once there is no brain.

Please point to one example of a mind existing absent a physical brain.

(April 14, 2014 at 6:40 pm)Deidre32 Wrote: I didn't believe in heaven/hell even as a Christian.

(April 15, 2014 at 5:21 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: Were you ever a Christian?

Better analogy than the car and speed.
Air and wind.
Without air, there is no wind.
Wind patterns emerge all around the globe.
Wind can cause catastrophes, can increase the intensity of fires, can make tornados...
Wind can also be refreshing, or carry mosquitoes across continents (like from the North Africa to Europe), or bring heat to otherwise cool places and vice-versa.

jesus will call my name, in a sexy voice.