(April 27, 2014 at 5:02 pm)rasetsu Wrote:

(April 27, 2014 at 4:47 pm)Stephanie Wrote: If he just appeared to everyone people would choose to accept him out of fear, not love.

And yet, God himself went around the Middle East, telling people about hell, and seeing to it that his words about hell would be immortalized in the bible. And here you are, exhorting us to make a decision based on fear of hell.

You're completely two faced. You claim God doesn't want us to choose him out of fear of hell, yet it was He who told us about hell in the first place. That's fucked up.

Even if God appeared to non-believers, they would not believe it was him. They refuse to open their hearts.

(April 27, 2014 at 4:47 pm)Stephanie Wrote:

(April 27, 2014 at 4:42 pm)Beccs Wrote: All your deity needs to do is make an appearance and/or provide testable evidence of its existence. According to the OT people could barely leave their houses without god appearing to them, sending angels or providing signs.

Yet now, as our knowledge advances, it refuses to do such things.

The people he appeared to were already faithful. He will not appear to a non-believer because they first have to allow him into their heart. If he just appeared to everyone people would choose to accept him out of fear, not love. He leaves the choice to you without intervention.

Love me or I will burn you for eternity! But love me bc you love me not bc you're afraid of burning for eternity...

(April 27, 2014 at 5:03 pm)Beccs Wrote:

(April 27, 2014 at 4:59 pm)Raeven Wrote: But he used to provide evidence. He used to show up all the time, according to your silly book. Did he, what, change his mind? God is capable of indecision? Thought BETTER of showing up, decided hide-and-seek was better? You just said he doesn't provide evidence because it would violate free will. So how come he USED to provide evidence, according to the silly book?

That's exactly what I said earlier, but was ignored. According to their own silly little book, their deity made appearances or provided evidence on an almost daily basis.

Yet, today, all it seems to be able to do today is appear on grilled-cheese sandwiches.

Those claiming he appears in food are ridiculous and not true believers.

(April 27, 2014 at 4:47 pm)Stephanie Wrote: The people he appeared to were already faithful. He will not appear to a non-believer because they first have to allow him into their heart. If he just appeared to everyone people would choose to accept him out of fear, not love. He leaves the choice to you without intervention.

That's exactly what your fucking religion preaches. It is a cult of fear. Fear of gawd's wrath, fear of judgement, fear of hell, fear of death, ad infinitum.

Take you fear cult and fuck off!

(April 27, 2014 at 5:03 pm)Kitanetos Wrote:

(April 27, 2014 at 5:00 pm)Stephanie Wrote: Open your heart and allow you God given faith to flow through your mind.

You mean forego with reason and logic in order to believe simply for the sake of believing? A deluded mind can, of course, imagine that something exists even though it does not, but would living in reality not be so much more enjoyable? I think so.

Better than choosing to burn in hell for eternity.

LOL, she has her mantra... must... not... deviate.

(April 27, 2014 at 5:04 pm)Raeven Wrote:

(April 27, 2014 at 5:01 pm)Stephanie Wrote: Because they already believed and open their hearts to Him.

So there were no atheists then? Not a single one? Everyone could see him? No iffy agnostics hanging about?

He revealed himself to no atheists.

(April 27, 2014 at 5:03 pm)Stephanie Wrote:

(April 27, 2014 at 5:02 pm)Losty Wrote: He created them. He created them knowing that they would make these choices. He is a fuckin asshole.

He allowed to them to make the choice. Not his fault.

Yes it would be his fault because he is the one who made them the way they are. How thick can you be seriously. Just fuck off already.

(April 27, 2014 at 5:03 pm)Stephanie Wrote:

(April 27, 2014 at 5:02 pm)Losty Wrote: He created them. He created them knowing that they would make these choices. He is a fuckin asshole.

He allowed to them to make the choice. Not his fault.

Once again: It created people knowing they would go to hell for questioning. Your deity sends people to hell deliberately.

People would not worship out of fear if your deity appeared and proved that it is all-loving.

All we have right now is the bible, which shows that the deity is evil. Which is why people still worship out of fear.

(April 27, 2014 at 5:04 pm)Losty Wrote:

(April 27, 2014 at 4:47 pm)Stephanie Wrote: The people he appeared to were already faithful. He will not appear to a non-believer because they first have to allow him into their heart. If he just appeared to everyone people would choose to accept him out of fear, not love. He leaves the choice to you without intervention.

Love me or I will burn you for eternity! But love me bc you love me not bc you're afraid of burning for eternity...

Only an atheist would view such a gift so horribly.

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(April 27, 2014 at 5:05 pm)GalacticBusDriver Wrote:

(April 27, 2014 at 4:47 pm)Stephanie Wrote: The people he appeared to were already faithful. He will not appear to a non-believer because they first have to allow him into their heart. If he just appeared to everyone people would choose to accept him out of fear, not love. He leaves the choice to you without intervention.

That's exactly what your fucking religion preaches. It is a cult of fear. Fear of gawd's wrath, fear of judgement, fear of hell, fear of death, ad infinitum.

Take you fear cult and fuck off!

It is not fear, it is love that atheists twist into this so-called "fear".