(May 20, 2014 at 8:18 pm)Lek Wrote:

(May 20, 2014 at 7:51 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: Oh, so what decides who are officially Christians and who aren't?

God does, not people.

Did God tell Professor the Catholics aren't Christians?

Do they know?

How does one become privy to this information?

There are 41,000 Christian denominations worldwide. How do you tell if you're in the right one?

(May 20, 2014 at 9:56 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote:

(May 20, 2014 at 8:18 pm)Lek Wrote: God does, not people.

Did God tell Professor the Catholics aren't Christians?

Do they know?

How does one become privy to this information?

There are 41,000 Christian denominations worldwide. How do you tell if you're in the right one?

What you didnt hear? god came down and cleared it up. Apparently the mormons had it right all along and joseph is now sharing a hot tub with god on kabob.

(May 20, 2014 at 9:45 pm)Godschild Wrote:

(May 20, 2014 at 8:21 pm)Bad Writer Wrote: Big, little, it's all from the same book. Your argument is petty and petulant.

How do we know you're an atheist, because you say so, I think not!

GC

I'm content assuming you are a Southern Baptist. This tidbit gives anyone a head start on learning about your beliefs. The same goes when I tell you I'm an atheist. You would approach me very differently if I was anything else.

Also consider this: if I'm not an atheist, that makes me the biggest theist Poe to ever grace these forums.

(May 20, 2014 at 6:32 pm)professor Wrote: Points scored for the devil.
Cult groups like the JWs, Mormons are also considered "Christian".
Score more points for the devil.

Instead of telling us which Christian denominations were founded by the devil, why not say which denomination of Christianity is the 'correct' one? I'd be interested in seeing what other Christian forum members will say if they don't happen to belong to your 'true' denomination.

If a true Christian is somebody who interprets The Bible in the most literal way while still following it as best they can, then there are no true Christians.

(May 20, 2014 at 6:18 pm)professor Wrote: What Catholicism does is retain some biblical words while changing meanings.
All cults do the same thing.

The meanings of words are not immutable. Language is arbitrary, and it changes over time. What's important is what the writer was trying to communicate.

(May 20, 2014 at 6:18 pm)professor Wrote: Paul said, "Some will DEPART from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, FORBIDDING to eat MEATS"... Who does that?
Catholics.

Leviticus 11 KJV
And the Lord spake unto Moses and to Aaron, saying unto them, "Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, 'These are the beasts which ye shall eat among all the beasts that are on the earth.' "

(May 20, 2014 at 6:18 pm)professor Wrote: The pope is the highest authority rather than the Bible.
The Bible is negated by Catholic doctrine.

You'll have to show that following the pope negates following The Bible. But wait, The Bible is a compilation of different books that contradicted eachother. But wait, the Catholic Church was the institution that put together this compilation, choosing to include some and exclude others!

(May 20, 2014 at 6:18 pm)professor Wrote: Salvation comes (they think) by participation in a "Mass" - a re-sacrifice cerimony.
Rather than trusting in what Jesus did.

Jesus said, "whoever hears my word and believes He has sent me has eternal life", so the question is what Jesus said about going to church.

(May 20, 2014 at 6:18 pm)professor Wrote: The pope calls himself the "Vicar of Christ". "Vicar means - replacement. Replacement means - not the origional.
In other words- a fake.

Narrow definition

Wikipedia -- "A vicar is a representative, deputy or substitute;"

Note the word "or".

(May 20, 2014 at 6:18 pm)professor Wrote: Jesus said "Call no man "Father" (in the place of God) but preists call themselves "Father".

Jesus didn't speak English.

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(May 20, 2014 at 7:53 pm)professor Wrote: If you build a fake car and are successful at passing it off as are real car- is it a real car?

It's not going to pass as a car unless it's somehow car-like.

(May 20, 2014 at 7:53 pm)professor Wrote: Just as the foundation of those groups is NOT Biblical/ Not what what was given as a foundation, they are fake, just as the fake car is.

Nobody makes The Bible their ultimate foundation for knowledge. It's impossible because you can't even read The Bible unless you first trust that your senses and reading comprehension are not decieving you. Furthermore you have to determine that a translation is accurate before you can take it to truly reflect the original books. How do you determine what The Bible says if The Bible is your utlimate foundation for knowledge?

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(May 20, 2014 at 9:45 pm)Godschild Wrote: How do we know you're an atheist, because you say so, I think not!

That's reasonable evidence that I'm an atheist. That evidence can be undercut with other observations, but until then, it's suggestive of my true beliefs.

Well I for one am an atheist because I can do this nice little thing where I perform an unforgiveable sin by telling the holy spirit to go fuck himself with a cactus because guess what? Jesus ain't Lord.

(May 20, 2014 at 10:12 pm)Bad Writer Wrote:

(May 20, 2014 at 9:45 pm)Godschild Wrote: How do we know you're an atheist, because you say so, I think not!

GC

I'm content assuming you are a Southern Baptist. This tidbit gives anyone a head start on learning about your beliefs. The same goes when I tell you I'm an atheist. You would approach me very differently if I was anything else.

Also consider this: if I'm not an atheist, that makes me the biggest theist Poe to ever grace these forums.

I can prove I'm a Southern Baptist, I have my name listed as a member of the Southern Baptist Church, where's your proof. For all I know you are a pretender and worship Baal.

GC

I contend that your true religion is "Ravenous Dong-Huffing." Prove me wrong.

Records can be falsified, although I have no reason to believe you would do that, GC. I have a feeling you try to be genuinely honest.

This is actually a very good example of a claim that requires little-to-no evidence. The same honestly goes for my claim that I'm an atheist. And on that, you can either take my word for it or leave it.

The question is, are you going to start treating me like anything other than an atheist now due to your sudden and unexpected bout of mistrust? That would really be very silly and will get us nowhere in discussions.

(May 20, 2014 at 8:18 pm)Lek Wrote: God does, not people.

If we are to take Jesus' instructions as per the Sermon on the Mount as a way to indicate what makes a "real Christian", the number of real Christians would be precisely zero. The overwhelming majority of you don't even bother trying to live according to even the easy parts. That includes every self-labeled Christian I've seen on this forum.

You think that your repentance to Christ is going to be automatically approved. An all-knowing god is going to see through your 'repentance' for what it is: lip service paid in the interest of gaining rewards. Self-interest motivates every single one of you.

And that's why you'll roast in hell right next to us, even if you're right.