The whole secret of being a criminal is to know where to commit your crimes with the least risk to yourself. So if you kill someone in a State that has the death penalty you might get it if you get convicted. That Norwegian who killed all of those people a few years ago in Norway only got 20 some years in a nice prison. He would have been beheaded in Saudi Arabia. He would have been facing the death penalty in Texas. He would have gotten life in Minnesota.

Think before you act.

(May 24, 2014 at 11:58 pm)Ryantology (╯°◊°)╯︵ ══╬ Wrote: The death penalty is nothing but vengeance.

What is wrong with vengeance?

(May 25, 2014 at 7:38 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: The whole secret of being a criminal is to know where to commit your crimes with the least risk to yourself. So if you kill someone in a State that has the death penalty you might get it if you get convicted. That Norwegian who killed all of those people a few years ago in Norway only got 20 some years in a nice prison. He would have been beheaded in Saudi Arabia. He would have been facing the death penalty in Texas. He would have gotten life in Minnesota.

Think before you act.

And less than a decade ago, if he had done this in Nebraska and gotten the DP for it, the mandatory mode would have been the electric chair. I realize all jurisdictions in the USA default to lethal injection, now, but it wasn't always that way. I always found that weird about the USA DP.

(May 25, 2014 at 8:12 am)KUSA Wrote:

(May 24, 2014 at 11:58 pm)Ryantology (╯°◊°)╯︵ ══╬ Wrote: The death penalty is nothing but vengeance.

What is wrong with vengeance?

It puts more blood on more hands while solving nothing, and too often, that blood also ends up belonging to an innocent person.

I am against the death penalty and I will kill everyone that disagrees with me

Ahem, NVM.

It is more of an opinion of mine, but the death penalty robs the perpetrator the chance of acknowledgement of its errors and provides them with an easy way out. Also, like Ryan said, there is always the possibility of a wrongfull conviction to happen. And death is pretty much irreversible.

Who cares, lol.
They may hang them if they wish so.
Ah, where are the executions of old?

(May 25, 2014 at 8:12 am)KUSA Wrote:

(May 24, 2014 at 11:58 pm)Ryantology (╯°◊°)╯︵ ══╬ Wrote: The death penalty is nothing but vengeance.

What is wrong with vengeance?

It solves nothing. Lex Talionis )or "law of the talon", eye for an eye, schoolyard justice etc...) is horseshit. What does it solve to do the same action to the individual(s) who wronged you? Not a damn thing, and like Ryan said innocents can be harmed when a person, or government, is vying for vengeance.

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(May 25, 2014 at 8:12 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Who cares, lol.
They may hang them if they wish so.
Ah, where are the executions of old?

Seriously? Fuck you. Barbarian.

(May 25, 2014 at 8:42 pm)Starvald Demelain Wrote:

(May 25, 2014 at 8:12 am)KUSA Wrote: What is wrong with vengeance?

It solves nothing. Lex Talionis )or "law of the talon", eye for an eye, schoolyard justice etc...) is horseshit. What does it solve to do the same action to the individual(s) who wronged you? Not a damn thing, and like Ryan said innocents can be harmed when a person, or government, is vying for vengeance.

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(May 25, 2014 at 8:12 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Who cares, lol.
They may hang them if they wish so.
Ah, where are the executions of old?

Seriously? Fuck you. Barbarian.

Removing a horrible person from the world is keeping that person from doing more damage. Killing someone doesn't make you "just like them" or whatever. Motivation is everything.

(May 25, 2014 at 8:42 pm)Starvald Demelain Wrote:

(May 25, 2014 at 8:12 am)KUSA Wrote: What is wrong with vengeance?

It solves nothing. Lex Talionis )or "law of the talon", eye for an eye, schoolyard justice etc...) is horseshit. What does it solve to do the same action to the individual(s) who wronged you? Not a damn thing, and like Ryan said innocents can be harmed when a person, or government, is vying for vengeance.

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(May 25, 2014 at 8:12 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Who cares, lol.
They may hang them if they wish so.
Ah, where are the executions of old?

Seriously? Fuck you. Barbarian.

You defend the lives of death row inmates who have murdered people, and you call me a barbarian?
Only a barbarian can defend a man who has murdered his fellow being.
And amongst them are people as vile as Ted Bundy, he should have been hanged, drawn and quartered, and be made to feel the same pain he had made others feel.
Instead he received the electric chair, and now you seem to be angry that perhaps people of lesser crimes are receiving the merciful electric chair for their murderous ways?

(May 25, 2014 at 8:54 pm)Chad32 Wrote:

(May 25, 2014 at 8:42 pm)Starvald Demelain Wrote: It solves nothing. Lex Talionis )or "law of the talon", eye for an eye, schoolyard justice etc...) is horseshit. What does it solve to do the same action to the individual(s) who wronged you? Not a damn thing, and like Ryan said innocents can be harmed when a person, or government, is vying for vengeance.

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Seriously? Fuck you. Barbarian.

Removing a horrible person from the world is keeping that person from doing more damage. Killing someone doesn't make you "just like them" or whatever. Motivation is everything.

So to remove someone from society you must kill them? Ever heard of prison, mate?

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(May 25, 2014 at 9:10 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: You defend the lives of death row inmates who have murdered people, and you call me a barbarian?

Yes. You're a damned barbarian. You lament over lost forms of execution.

(May 25, 2014 at 9:10 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Only a barbarian can defend a man who has murdered his fellow being.

Can you be a bigger idiot? How in the bloody hell does taking a moral stand against state mandated murder as a form of punishment equate to barbarism? Do you understand what 'barbarism' means?

Quote:bar·ba·rism
ˈbärbəˌrizəm/Submit
noun
1.
absence of culture and civilization.
"the collapse of civilization and the return to barbarism"
(English and Greek) or television (Greek and Latin).
plural noun: barbarisms
2.
extreme cruelty or brutality.
"she called the execution an act of barbarism"

(May 25, 2014 at 9:10 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: And amongst them are people as vile as Ted Bundy, he should have been hanged, drawn and quartered, and be made to feel the same pain he had made others feel.

What does that solve?

Did it bring back the people he slaughtered? No.

Did it fill the hole of loss in the victim's family's lives? No.

If anything, execution merely fulfills the purpose of bringing temporary pleasure to those who were indirectly wronged by the murderer. Oh, and to sick little fucks like you.

(May 25, 2014 at 9:10 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Instead he received the electric chair, and now you seem to be angry that perhaps people of lesser crimes are receiving the merciful electric chair for their murderous ways?

He, and any other killer detained by the government, should have never been executed in the first place. So yes, I am angry that they're bringing back the chair. Obviously.