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Christian "purpose" and "meaning" in life.
RE: Christian "purpose" and "meaning" in life.
Well, I am a single man and I don't have to worry about health insurance or anything like that. There are streets I will never walk down, but I do not begrudge my money being used to light and maintain them for others.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Christian "purpose" and "meaning" in life.
(May 31, 2014 at 4:30 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote:
(May 31, 2014 at 4:25 pm)Lek Wrote: Christians are not allowed to do any of these things.

Only because of secular laws. These things are Godly and repeatedly demanded by God in the bible. The same for child molestation: Christians are only prevented from doing this by secular law, as it's never verboten in the bible.

(May 31, 2014 at 4:25 pm)Lek Wrote: No. He taught us to help the needy, not create programs like the ones I described, to forcibly take money from some people and give it to others. He called that stealing.

I see, so legislating the same kind of social conscience Jesus later taught, such as helping the needy is not OK, because you're greedy: you got yours, so fuck everyone else. Thanks for the clarification.

No. Not just because of secular laws. We're commanded to love our neighbor. Also, one of the ten commandments was "do not murder". I don't get you. I just said he commanded us to help the needy. What part of that don't you understand?
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RE: Christian "purpose" and "meaning" in life.
(May 31, 2014 at 5:27 pm)Lek Wrote:
(May 31, 2014 at 4:30 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: Only because of secular laws. These things are Godly and repeatedly demanded by God in the bible. The same for child molestation: Christians are only prevented from doing this by secular law, as it's never verboten in the bible.


I see, so legislating the same kind of social conscience Jesus later taught, such as helping the needy is not OK, because you're greedy: you got yours, so fuck everyone else. Thanks for the clarification.

No. Not just because of secular laws. We're commanded to love our neighbor. Also, one of the ten commandments was "do not murder". I don't get you. I just said he commanded us to help the needy. What part of that don't you understand?

You're commanded? You need a commandment to love?
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RE: Christian "purpose" and "meaning" in life.
(May 31, 2014 at 5:27 pm)Lek Wrote: No. Not just because of secular laws. We're commanded to love our neighbor. Also, one of the ten commandments was "do not murder". I don't get you. I just said he commanded us to help the needy. What part of that don't you understand?

Are you saying you don't murder just because you're told not to?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Christian "purpose" and "meaning" in life.
(May 31, 2014 at 5:39 pm)Irrational Wrote:
(May 31, 2014 at 5:27 pm)Lek Wrote: No. Not just because of secular laws. We're commanded to love our neighbor. Also, one of the ten commandments was "do not murder". I don't get you. I just said he commanded us to help the needy. What part of that don't you understand?

You're commanded? You need a commandment to love?

No. Do you need a secular law in order to love?
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RE: Christian "purpose" and "meaning" in life.
(May 31, 2014 at 5:44 pm)Lek Wrote:
(May 31, 2014 at 5:39 pm)Irrational Wrote: You're commanded? You need a commandment to love?

No. Do you need a secular law in order to love?

That's the point. I don't need a law to tell me that, human or divine. I am conditioned to provide love to others.
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RE: Christian "purpose" and "meaning" in life.
(May 31, 2014 at 5:46 pm)Irrational Wrote:
(May 31, 2014 at 5:44 pm)Lek Wrote: No. Do you need a secular law in order to love?

That's the point. I don't need a law to tell me that, human or divine. I am conditioned to provide love to others.

Do you love everyone in the world?
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RE: Christian "purpose" and "meaning" in life.
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(May 31, 2014 at 5:40 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Are you saying you don't murder just because you're told not to?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Christian "purpose" and "meaning" in life.
(May 31, 2014 at 4:36 pm)Lek Wrote:
(May 31, 2014 at 4:14 pm)Brakeman Wrote: LIAR! The insurances that have been revoked are those that do not meet a range of MINIMUMS! "Good" insurances have not been touched. Several cheap policies have been revoked because they do not meet the minimum coverages.
You cannot come up with examples of "good" insurances that met the federal minimums that have been revoked because of Obamacare, because it doesn't work that way.

If you weren't dishonest, you wouldn't have posted that because it is too easy to find out the truth.

If I am a single man and I want to purchase insurance, I have to purchase a plan that covers ob/gyn. What if I want to purchase limited insurance that fits my needs and which I can get at a lower price? The minimums that the government sets are there so that all will have to share the cost of insuring other people. Even Obama came out and apologized and admitted that he lied when he said everyone could keep their same doctors. Not only are millions of people now paying more for insurance, but their new plans will not allow them to keep their doctors. Many people who who don't get insurance through their employers were buying limited coverage insurance because they couldn't afford more coverage, but it worked for them and their families. Now they have to spend more under Obamacare. No dishonesty here.

Every insurance plan that was in effect when the ACA took effect was grandfathered.

The insurance companies fucked people, not the ACA.
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Christian "purpose" and "meaning" in life.
(May 31, 2014 at 5:39 pm)Irrational Wrote:
(May 31, 2014 at 5:27 pm)Lek Wrote: No. Not just because of secular laws. We're commanded to love our neighbor. Also, one of the ten commandments was "do not murder". I don't get you. I just said he commanded us to help the needy. What part of that don't you understand?

You're commanded? You need a commandment to love?

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