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An unorthodox belief in God.
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 (June 9, 2014 at 12:57 pm)mickiel Wrote: maybe I can use some pages I wrote else where; Let me see if this works. Argument from authority. Color my seriously unimpressed!
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 RE: An unorthodox belief in God.
June 9, 2014 at 10:23 pm
(This post was last modified: June 9, 2014 at 10:24 pm by mickiel.)
(June 9, 2014 at 10:21 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:(June 9, 2014 at 10:16 pm)mickiel Wrote: That's one of them, yes. One on a long list that no animal could ever even fulfill 1/10th of. I think I am unaware of some of it, yes, but know enough of it. (June 9, 2014 at 10:22 pm)GalacticBusDriver Wrote:(June 9, 2014 at 12:57 pm)mickiel Wrote: maybe I can use some pages I wrote else where; Let me see if this works. What's it feel like when you have to hide?  (June 9, 2014 at 2:31 pm)mickiel Wrote: Oh no I understand why you reject it, you're supposed to. Its you're time to reject it; where I differ with Christianity, is that rejection is meaningless to god, because he has you rejecting him. He wants you there, thus that rejection is NOT condemnation for you; its karma; its position; its destiny. I do not view atheism as evil, nor as a thing from the devil. NO! I see god as its source, as he is the source of theism as well. Just curious. Do you believe in free will?
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 (June 9, 2014 at 10:23 pm)mickiel Wrote: What's it feel like when you have to hide? I know! Logic and reason are so ridiculous to hide behind when you fallacious arguments and bare assertions to guide you!
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great
PM me your email address to join the Slack chat! I'll give you a taco(or five) if you join! --->There's an app and everything!<--- (June 9, 2014 at 2:49 pm)mickiel Wrote: Oh I did, for two pages, just not to you're satisfaction; its impossible to satisfy atheist cynicism.Actually, it's quite easy. Testable, verifiable evidence. Not logical arguments that stand or fall, not on their logic, but their presupposition. Not bare-assed, unsupported assertions. (June 9, 2014 at 2:48 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: I gave the evidence, you reject it or say its too much or not magnified enough. You pick one, others here have tried that, " Focus on one " as an excuse; it does not work. But I will still do that with any of you.Yet again, your evidence isn't being rejected because you haven't presented any.
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RE: An unorthodox belief in God.
June 9, 2014 at 10:33 pm
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(June 9, 2014 at 10:29 pm)GalacticBusDriver Wrote:(June 9, 2014 at 2:31 pm)mickiel Wrote: Oh no I understand why you reject it, you're supposed to. Its you're time to reject it; where I differ with Christianity, is that rejection is meaningless to god, because he has you rejecting him. He wants you there, thus that rejection is NOT condemnation for you; its karma; its position; its destiny. I do not view atheism as evil, nor as a thing from the devil. NO! I see god as its source, as he is the source of theism as well. No I don't. I think we have limited will, but free will, in my view, is a will not influenced by any outside influences, and I think that's impossible. Its not biblical either. (June 9, 2014 at 10:33 pm)GalacticBusDriver Wrote:(June 9, 2014 at 2:49 pm)mickiel Wrote: Oh I did, for two pages, just not to you're satisfaction; its impossible to satisfy atheist cynicism.Actually, it's quite easy. Testable, verifiable evidence. Not logical arguments that stand or fall, not on their logic, but their presupposition. Not bare-assed, unsupported assertions. Once again: http://www.forumgarden.com/forums/genera...l-113.html (June 9, 2014 at 2:52 pm)mickiel Wrote:No, it's not. One is the real case, and has lots of evidence to support it. The other is an illusion. If you ever did any actual research on evolution and/or biology you'd know the difference.(June 9, 2014 at 2:39 pm)ShaMan Wrote: It's more likely that Humans were well suited for the Earth, and so developed and evolved within its tolerances.Its both!
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(June 9, 2014 at 10:35 pm)GalacticBusDriver Wrote:(June 9, 2014 at 2:52 pm)mickiel Wrote: Its both!No, it's not. One is the real case, and has lots of evidence to support it. The other is an illusion. If you ever did any actual research on evolution and/or biology you'd know the difference. I am tempted to give you my view of evolution, but it will only roll off you like water on a duck's back. RE: An unorthodox belief in God.
June 9, 2014 at 10:40 pm
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(June 9, 2014 at 5:57 pm)mickiel Wrote: No it does not; god gave himself consciousness; I just can't explain how.[emphasis is mine] An yet, in your arrogance, you expect us to blindly accept this claim while not even considering ours. So, why can't the universe have created itself. After all, you're claiming that god created itself. (June 9, 2014 at 6:56 pm)Eye of God Wrote: You sound like one of those mislead deists. That's a shame. The one TRUE God is not someone to take litely. You should get your heart right as quickly as you can. The Lord Jesus Christ will discard you as quickly as he does the atheists who deny him. Got some evidence for that "One True Gawd" you're spouting about? Any at all? Somehow I doubt it. (June 9, 2014 at 9:11 pm)mickiel Wrote: I totally disagree with ever last one of those who signed that declaration, they are an embarrassment to realist; elephants, chimps and octo's are not conscious beings. Their animals, beasts; nothing more. (June 9, 2014 at 9:11 pm)mickiel Wrote: I totally disagree with this shameful deception of professionals who signed that, they KNOW animals are not conscious. And you piss and moan that your "evidence" is being rejected. Hypocrite!
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