Nah, any fule kno it was Shakespeare. Dude wrote everything.

I feel like you just insulted my boy Willy Shakes, Stimbo.

(June 17, 2014 at 5:51 am)Pickup_shonuff Wrote:

(June 17, 2014 at 4:38 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: Didn't you know that John Wycliffe wrote the Bible?

You mean translated.

So produce an authentic complete 3rd Century Bible. That should be easy to do if Wycliffe just translated it.

(June 17, 2014 at 10:39 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:

(June 17, 2014 at 5:51 am)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: You mean translated.

So produce an authentic complete 3rd Century Bible. That should be easy to do if Wycliffe just translated it.

You mean something like the Codex Sinaiticus?

Dear religiou fruitcake,

Your Jesus likely did not exist and your god is almost certainly fictional. As such, how could they have possibly said or done anything? Come back to the real worl before it's too late. We are mortal beings and should not waste our time when it comes to imaginary beings.

Sincerely, Someone who doesn't need an imaginary sky-daddy to get her through life.

PS: When it comes to prosletysing you can just FUCK OFF!

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(June 14, 2014 at 9:51 am)Revelation777 Wrote:

(June 13, 2014 at 12:27 am)Starvald Demelain Wrote: I too have heard this said.

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Evidently evangelists think that it makes good eats too. Why else would they keep giving them to starving people in third world countries?

Most missionaries in third world countries provide food and medical help.

Conditionally.

Conditional charity isn't charity.

(June 17, 2014 at 10:39 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:

(June 17, 2014 at 5:51 am)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: You mean translated.

So produce an authentic complete 3rd Century Bible. That should be easy to do if Wycliffe just translated it.

Why 3rd century? Wycliffe did his work in the 14th, IIRC.

(June 17, 2014 at 2:41 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote:

(June 17, 2014 at 10:39 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: So produce an authentic complete 3rd Century Bible. That should be easy to do if Wycliffe just translated it.

You mean something like the Codex Sinaiticus?

Got a link to a complete authentic copy? Based on the pages I've seen at one site none of them have any complete paragraphs.

So you're saying that old Wycliffe got his hands on the original copy, which was in tatters, and translated every word and thought exactly even when there was nothing to translate. The guy was a genius!!! Sorry, but I have to call bull shit. What the fraud did was to use some of the available material from unknown sources and then proceeded to write his fairy tale. People do that all of the time. And when they have nothing they simply pull it out of their asses like John Smith, L. Ron Hubbard, and Gerald Gardner and the liars who wrote the Islamic hadiths did.

Was Ben Hur based on actual events?

(June 17, 2014 at 5:29 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:

(June 17, 2014 at 2:41 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: You mean something like the Codex Sinaiticus?

Got a link to a complete authentic copy? Based on the pages I've seen at one site none of them have any complete paragraphs.

So you're saying that old Wycliffe got his hands on the original copy, which was in tatters, and translated every word and thought exactly even when there was nothing to translate. The guy was a genius!!! Sorry, but I have to call bull shit. What the fraud did was to use some of the available material from unknown sources and then proceeded to write his fairy tale. People do that all of the time. And when they have nothing they simply pull it out of their asses like John Smith, L. Ron Hubbard, and Gerald Gardner and the liars who wrote the Islamic hadiths did.

Was Ben Hur based on actual events?

Codexsinaiticus.org

I don't understand your claim. You can't be so ignorant as to think the Bible was originally written in the 14th century. Thousands of fragments, in different languages, some nearly complete, existed for a thousand years before Wycliffe took the books long established as the "official" Canon and translated them into English (from the Vulgate, to be precise).

(June 17, 2014 at 2:59 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:

(June 17, 2014 at 10:39 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: So produce an authentic complete 3rd Century Bible. That should be easy to do if Wycliffe just translated it.

Why 3rd century? Wycliffe did his work in the 14th, IIRC.

I said that Wycliffe basically pulled the Bible out of his ass. The counter position is that he translated it whole from another language. So if he just translated it then where did he get the original 2nd or 3rd Century book? The guy was sitting in a musty hovel in England and not having dinner with the Pope in Rome. And we know that the earlier manuscripts were manipulated by various writers through the preceding centuries. Even the Catholics wrote a version to comply with Wycliffe's.

I'm not denying that earlier manuscripts existed. What I am saying is that Wycliffe wrote the basic Bible that is in use today.

(June 17, 2014 at 6:14 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:

(June 17, 2014 at 2:59 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Why 3rd century? Wycliffe did his work in the 14th, IIRC.

I said that Wycliffe basically pulled the Bible out of his ass. The counter position is that he translated it whole from another language. So if he just translated it then where did he get the original 2nd or 3rd Century book? The guy was sitting in a musty hovel in England and not having dinner with the Pope in Rome. And we know that the earlier manuscripts were manipulated by various writers through the preceding centuries. Even the Catholics wrote a version to comply with Wycliffe's.

I'm not denying that earlier manuscripts existed. What I am saying is that Wycliffe wrote the basic Bible that is in use today.

"Wrote" is a bit of a hyperbole. "Redacted", perhaps, or "interpolated", if "translated" isn't your cup of tea.