I don't think of belief and faith as the same thing. Belief means you think something is true. Faith means you believe it is true despite the lack of evidence or even in the face of evidence to the contrary. Knowledge is belief for which you have overwhelming evidence.

(June 17, 2014 at 11:57 pm)BlackSwordsman Wrote:

(June 17, 2014 at 11:54 pm)Jenny A Wrote: Yep. As I said. They are really worried about losing faith. That's why they pray please Lord give me faith. Circular but heart felt.

It is really sad to have such weak faith, I hear Christianity is down to 47% in America

Oh, do you have that link? Sounds like a significant drop from a few years back, but I'm not complaining.

(June 18, 2014 at 12:22 am)Elskidor Wrote:

(June 17, 2014 at 11:57 pm)BlackSwordsman Wrote: It is really sad to have such weak faith, I hear Christianity is down to 47% in America

Oh, do you have that link? Sounds like a significant drop from a few years back, but I'm not complaining.

I just hope that Christianity isn't taken over by arrogant atheist.

If Christianity WAS taken over by arrogant atheists, I'd probably join...
At least I won't be looked at like a lost lamb....

Maybe just a lost neanderthal! Hehe

(June 18, 2014 at 1:34 am)ignoramus Wrote: If Christianity WAS taken over by arrogant atheists, I'd probably join...
At least I won't be looked at like a lost lamb....

Maybe just a lost neanderthal! Hehe

Whatever, just don't let your arrogance come into the picture.

But they shit their pants in indignation when they come to an atheist forum and are not allowed to operate free of having their opinions challenged.

They aren't use to it, and probably figure they are here to save a few tormented souls and be on their way once we change the name of the forum to "Born Again" or "Saved from Atheism" or some crap.

I spent an hour or so browsing this “worthy Christian forum” (deliciously paradoxical name) and honestly I was more than a little unsettled by what I saw. Besides seeing multiple threads re-defining rape and murder into acceptable terms, one thread was talking about how much they are looking forward to the end of the world and hope that it occurs soon. This idea of “the next life is the REAL one” is what I think leads to Christians (and other theists) spouting off about being moral and righteous..but then endorsing or committing horrific policies and actions in the interest of gaining points in the afterlife, which is all that matters anyway.

(June 17, 2014 at 1:33 pm)BlackSwordsman Wrote: So I have a friend who is christian and so I went to a christian forum to make friends, I clearly stated my intent was purely to make friends.

I hung out on the chat and had a lot of fun talking to some nice people . . . that was until the religious nutterbars showed up! (my screen name TheVeganBuddhist) he saw my name said "Vegan if I were you I would think about why I am here and not push your agenda"

I told him that in the introduction of the site that I am here purely for social reasons, to make friends with good people (yeah christians can be nice some of them)

I told him I am Vegan, I am Buddhist it isn't an agenda it simply is . .me

I was extremely kind so as not to be banned.

I never posted anything religious only replies to fun posts such as

If you were stranded on a deserted island what would you need?

I had made a few replies, someone asked me what I believed Jesus wise and I told him from bible perspective he was son of god, and son of carpenter. But I don't personally believe he existed.

After which they instantly put me into a classification of "nonbeliever"

All the posts I had made were deleted!

I was restricted from replying or even posting.

No worries I mainly hung out for conversation on the Chat section, so I went to log in . . . .

Well, I am going to do to you what they did to you right now.

You called yourself a Buddhist. Ok fine, but please understand that label is merely your preference and absolutely no religion in human history has been anything more than a sugar pill. Evolution was around long before Christianity AND Buddhism. And religion was around even before any written tradition.

Lots of people outside Asia get stuck on it because of the false perception that it is peaceful. Nope, it too has had its different sects and tribal beefs.

Both China and Japan have big portions of Buddhist populations and they are not friends. And Chinese Buddhists don't get along with Tibet's Buddhists.

Religion no matter which one in human history, as much as people like to claim it brings people together, also ignore that it creates a deadly "in group vs out group" dynamic. Buddhism doesn't escape that either.