(July 28, 2014 at 12:55 am)Drich Wrote:

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I took a little break here, and moved on to greener pastures for a while, and it seems that I killed the grass their too.

Alas I know what you 'good' people must feel like when censored by Christian websites. I went on a mission to explore some of the more fringe parts of Christianity, and even took some of your arguments, and the better parts of the ad hoc reasoning I got from you guys, and met with some success.

What did I learn from all of this? That their is only one difference in the fanatical beliefs of a boarder line faith in God/brand of Christianity, based believer, and they middle of the road atheist/misotheist.

It is what they believe not how they believe.

Not trying to stir the pot for the sake of doing it, but I honestly when debating these fringe Christians, began to wonder if some of you were members of that site. It's like they found something they wanted to believe and then filled in the gaps with 'evidence.' If they could not win me with their 'evidence' the name calling started.

That said I was eventually censored then all together bann. A few weeks later they even changed the whole web address.

So I took a few weeks of and made my way back here.

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Hey Buddy,

What “fringe” groups are you referring to? What sort of evidence are you referring to? Just curious.

(July 28, 2014 at 10:12 am)Losty Wrote: There, they're, their.

I'm so glad to see you again Drich. I can't remember for sure, but I don't think I've ever seen you post here before. Anyways, it's always good to see a familiar face. Perhaps I will bake you some cookies

Which forum did you know me from? What was your screen name?

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(July 28, 2014 at 10:29 am)A Theist Wrote:

(July 28, 2014 at 10:06 am)Drich Wrote: Those on the fringes of Christianity have been labeled as cults by the Christian community at large. Those steeped in legalism or adhearance to doctrine over what the bible actually says

I'm not trying to challenge you, but that's a pretty broad brush which describes a lot of Christian sects. By cults, are you refering to Jehovas Witnesses, Mormons, Christian Science, and such?

Along those lines yes

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(July 28, 2014 at 10:40 am)Losty Wrote:

(July 28, 2014 at 10:23 am)Insanity Wrote: Proprioception, just because you can't see your hand with the phone in it that doesn't mean you don't know where it is.

Welcome back, hopes all's well.

Not just that, if your camera makes a noise before it takes the picture that helps and if you're sensitive to light you can just point your eyes toward the brightness of the flash. Also you can just take 27 pictures and have a friend tell you which one is looking at the camera.

All very plausible. But so too is that person's ability to see, even if some what dismissed from the societal standard.

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(July 28, 2014 at 10:44 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote:

(July 28, 2014 at 10:12 am)Losty Wrote: There, they're, their.

I'm so glad to see you again Drich. I can't remember for sure, but I don't think I've ever seen you post here before. Anyways, it's always good to see a familiar face. Perhaps I will bake you some cookies

Go back and read his posts. You dont want him back.

Let me A/s/k you this.. In your tag line you present a double negative. Do you mean to say self delusion is the answer? If so what is the question and how long have you been sporting that tag line?

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(July 28, 2014 at 10:53 am)Bibliofagus Wrote:

(July 28, 2014 at 10:40 am)Losty Wrote: Not just that, if your camera makes a noise before it takes the picture that helps and if your sensitive to light you can just point your eyes toward the brightness of the flash. Also you can just take 27 pictures and have a friend tell you which one is looking at the camera.

There's also an app to take a selfie with the higher resolution main camera instead of the selfie thing by giving audio instructions: http://www.addictivetips.com/android/aud...ar-camera/
Chances are there are better options suited specifically for blind people.

Edit: I went on and tried to find one, but instead I found this:

Quote:Have you ever heard colors? Heard shapes? Using the EyeMusic you can experience the visual world without even opening your eyes. With your ears open and your eyes closed join us for a trip around the brain and let us teach you how the world can be experienced with your mind's eye.

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/eyemusic...61054?mt=8

Could be interesting.

The same thing can be done with shrooms and LSD for decades. No app needed

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(July 28, 2014 at 11:18 am)rasetsu Wrote: Welcome back Drich.

Are you insightful enough to see that you have the same bad habits as everybody else?

Indeed. However I do change/readapt when life demands it.

I know you from TTA and my username there is LostandInsecure. Same avatar same signature.

(July 28, 2014 at 2:15 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: Intro forum?

Dammit.

Welcome back, I suppose.

Did you ever join that commune?

(July 28, 2014 at 3:33 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:

(July 28, 2014 at 10:29 am)A Theist Wrote: I'm not trying to challenge you, but that's a pretty broad brush which describes a lot of Christian sects. By cults, are you refering to Jehovas Witnesses, Mormons, Christian Science, and such?

Wait'll you find out what Drich believes....

I seem to remember something about Monkeymen. We sure had fun with that, didn't we?

(July 28, 2014 at 2:41 pm)Quantum1Connect Wrote: Congratulations on having them change their url, that's impressive. When I trolled in my younger days, with stupidity, I couldn't ever get anyone to do that!

I'm sure it wasn't just me, after all it happened a few weeks after they bann my posts. I think they just moved and went to a submit it before they will post it friendly format.

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(July 28, 2014 at 3:19 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: Welcome back, Drich, I had wondered to where you'd gone off.

things were getting quite here so I thought I'd let some unchallenged topics go by to foster some new growth/braven up some lurkers and potential new members, so I went to another atheist site, and found a whole bunch of new people to offend along with some old standbys. Then was told of a Christian/cult forum and it soon took up all my time. They got mad and censored all my post by deleting whole sections, and towards the end when that was not enough, the mods would take whole essays and say: "Drich says this" which was never accurate in the least. Then when people starting emailing me I was bann. Then I found a church locally. So my wife and I have been going to it. We will see what happens there. Good people who care about themselves and God.. Just a little nuts in what they think and how they go about doing it.

Quote:It doesn't offend us to call us good, so if it's for our sake, no need for the scare quotes. If it's to point out that we're not actually good, I'd say that's not very classy, and arguably unChristian.

actually quite the opposite. Christ himself said none are Good except God. My 'quotes' separate the Good Christ was talking about from the douchey kind of 'good' most of you are.

Quote:Good for you! I'm glad you got something out of your experiences.

Being the bad guy that no one can stop from tearing down their religious beliefs, was kind of fun.

I just took their understanding of church History and paired it with the documented history of the world. (Most of the time.)

Quote:That sounds like an interesting observation. I'm interested in learning what you mean by it.

someone has already summed it up as conformation bias. We believe first and then seek evidence to support what we already think to be true.

Quote:Have you heard the story about the traveler who asked the local what the people in the area are like?

no I have not

Quote:We're not quick to ban. It's not how much you disagree with us that gets you banned around here, just whether you follow the rules or not, and you've done a middling job of doing so here. I hope you find your visit productive.

Thank you very much.[/quote]

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(July 28, 2014 at 3:30 pm)KUSA Wrote: I am curious about something Drich. Did God send you here to try and convert us or are you here to entertain yourself?

A little from column A and a little from column B.

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(July 28, 2014 at 3:30 pm)whateverist Wrote:

(July 28, 2014 at 12:55 am)Drich Wrote: misotheist

That could catch on.

Welcome back. If you and the missus aren't doing anything we're having a little ongoing party on the deck of reverino's ark. Lots of fun, but be sure to bring the missus. Losty could use the help.

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(July 28, 2014 at 3:19 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: Welcome back, Drich, I had wondered to where you'd gone off.

I know. It isn't like our souls are just going to save themselves.

Durning the summer she works late. So it will be just me till things slow back down.

Good thing we have Jesus to do all the soul saving for the both of us.

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(July 28, 2014 at 4:12 pm)Losty Wrote: I know you from TTA and my username there is LostandInsecure. Same avatar same signature.

Well welcome to AF.org. If you like at any time know you have the opportunity to start a debate with me on just about anything.

I don't see it but I was told I am very opinionated.

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(July 28, 2014 at 4:15 pm)whateverist Wrote:

(July 28, 2014 at 3:33 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: Wait'll you find out what Drich believes....

I seem to remember something about Monkeymen. We sure had fun with that, didn't we?

I did. That's why I used the term.

*Pokes at new thingy

Hmm.. Thinking the world revolves around him: Check. Thinking he is the only one who knows gospel truth: Check. Accusatory without basis or verifiable proof: Check. Provocation baiting: Check. Throw in a dash of paranoia and a teaspoonfull of bullshit artist and yep, it's Drich all right.

Welcome back sir, I kinda sorta possibly kinda minutely missed you

I'm not surprised at how the Christards took it when you told em they weren't True Christians.

(July 28, 2014 at 4:17 pm)Drich Wrote:

(July 28, 2014 at 3:19 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: Welcome back, Drich, I had wondered to where you'd gone off.

things were getting quite here so I thought I'd let some unchallenged topics go by to foster some new growth/braven up some lurkers and potential new members, so I went to another atheist site, and found a whole bunch of new people to offend along with some old standbys. Then was told of a Christian/cult forum and it soon took up all my time. They got mad and censored all my post by deleting whole sections, and towards the end when that was not enough, the mods would take whole essays and say: "Drich says this" which was never accurate in the least. Then when people starting emailing me I was bann. Then I found a church locally. So my wife and I have been going to it. We will see what happens there. Good people who care about themselves and God.. Just a little nuts in what they think and how they go about doing it.

It sounds like you've been having a good time, glad to hear it.

(July 28, 2014 at 4:17 pm)Drich Wrote:

(July 28, 2014 at 3:19 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: It doesn't offend us to call us good, so if it's for our sake, no need for the scare quotes. If it's to point out that we're not actually good, I'd say that's not very classy, and arguably unChristian.

actually quite the opposite. Christ himself said none are Good except God. My 'quotes' separate the Good Christ was talking about from the douchey kind of 'good' most of you are.

Fair enough. So you meant to say 'the douchey kind of 'good' most of US are', right?

(July 28, 2014 at 4:17 pm)Drich Wrote:

(July 28, 2014 at 3:19 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: Good for you! I'm glad you got something out of your experiences.

Being the bad guy that no one can stop from tearing down their religious beliefs, was kind of fun.

The best beliefs are the ones that are left standing after someone has torn down all the badly supported ones. You were doing them a favor.

(July 28, 2014 at 4:17 pm)Drich Wrote:

(July 28, 2014 at 3:19 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: That sounds like an interesting observation. I'm interested in learning what you mean by it.

someone has already summed it up as conformation bias. We believe first and then seek evidence to support what we already think to be true.

That's one of the hardest things to screen for, even when you're trying.

(July 28, 2014 at 4:17 pm)Drich Wrote:

(July 28, 2014 at 3:19 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: Have you heard the story about the traveler who asked the local what the people in the area are like?

no I have not

Goes looking for a link. Well, that took longer than I thought. Here you go:

http://www.pitt.edu/~dash/traveltales.ht...sandfarmer

(July 28, 2014 at 4:17 pm)Drich Wrote: actually quite the opposite. Christ himself said none are Good except God. My 'quotes' separate the Good Christ was talking about from the douchey kind of 'good' most of you are.

Ahhhh I love that term! "A douchey kind of good!" I can definitely roll with that.