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RE: Why knocking is so important.
August 19, 2014 at 11:07 am
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All of those times that "god" didn't keep his end of the bargain would fall under what header again? Inconsistency, incompetence, indifference.......?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Why knocking is so important.
August 19, 2014 at 11:12 am
While the bible may not be inerrant, Drich actually is. See he asked so politely, sought so fervently and knocked so loudly that God finally took him aside and made him His personal messenger. Drich is the way. Salvation lies through him. Oh to touch his garment! [/sarcasm]
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RE: Why knocking is so important.
August 19, 2014 at 11:12 am
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(August 19, 2014 at 11:07 am)Rhythm Wrote: All of those times that "god" didn't keep his end of the bargain would fall under what header again? Inconsistency, incompetence, indifference.......?
Nonexistence?
(August 19, 2014 at 11:12 am)whateverist Wrote: While the bible may not be inerrant, Drich actually is. See he asked so politely, sought so fervently and knocked so loudly that God finally took him aside and made him His personal messenger. Drich is the way. Salvation lies through him. Oh to touch his garment! [/sarcasm]
If you knock your head hard enough, you are bound to see something. Most of us realizes what we would be seeing are just tweedy birds.
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RE: Why knocking is so important.
August 19, 2014 at 11:21 am
(August 19, 2014 at 1:51 am)Goosebump Wrote: Hi, I'm new.
Just read this entire thread, exhausting. Imagine having to write it.. Not exactly entertainment... More of a quest or mission.
Quote:I was wondering if any one else noticed that Drich seems to take sport in this.
I have. But I also notice the 'sport' made of those in the faith when their arguements do not stand to the heavy scrutiny this place offers.
Quote:From the smug one liners and liberal use of emoticons it appears to be entertaining him. Anyone else get this impression?
While i do and freely admit that i do like to see you all believe you have me on the ropes, and fall into a turn that costs you the leverage you think you come into the conversation with... I will hope that you stay on long enough to see all that I say and do at its core is sincere, and what's more my efforts here will always match your own. Meaning if and when you want to get serious, I put away the childish things..
-but
When it's arrogant atheist against foolish Christian, i like to play the role you have me play.
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RE: Why knocking is so important.
August 19, 2014 at 11:21 am
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Quote:Whatever your (groups) reasons they can and will fall into one of the two catagories I have already mentioned. One you have found God and you have turned your back on Him. (Which if He has and you do it, makes you a misotheist and not an Atheist.) Or two you have a unsupported view of God and your faith has failed due whatever the flavor of rain God sent down on you cause your to doubt the viablity of your personal version of God. thus making you a legitmate atheist.
Or three, there is no evidence for any of this bollocks so decided to be a rational person and not believe in the unsubstantiated but persistent claims of a bronze age tribe.
If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world. - J.R.R Tolkien
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RE: Why knocking is so important.
August 19, 2014 at 11:23 am
(August 19, 2014 at 11:06 am)Chuck Wrote: (August 19, 2014 at 1:51 am)Goosebump Wrote: Hi, I'm new.
Just read this entire thread, exhausting. I was wondering if any one else noticed that Drich seems to take sport in this. From the smug one liners and liberal use of emoticons it appears to be entertaining him. Anyone else get this impression?
Acting smug is the tool he uses to avoid confronting either his own stupidity, or the inability of his creed to help him disguise his stupidity from his fellow men.
It's the classical Christianity. Throw a bunch of idiotic shit, than chant victory while sidling off the stage. The difference with drippy is he is even more stupid than usual and doesn't know when to sidle off the stage.
Then Maybe you could point out an instance or two
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RE: Why knocking is so important.
August 19, 2014 at 11:24 am
(August 19, 2014 at 11:21 am)Drich Wrote: But I also notice the 'sport' made of those in the faith when their arguements do not stand to the heavy scrutiny this place offers. I would hope so, since you're often on the receiving end of that.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Why knocking is so important.
August 19, 2014 at 11:25 am
(August 19, 2014 at 11:07 am)Rhythm Wrote: All of those times that "god" didn't keep his end of the bargain would fall under what header again? Inconsistency, incompetence, indifference.......?
Again as stated in the OP.
Your 'promises' were washed away like the fools house when the rains came.
(That was a promise as well.) That foolish men would have their faith/houses washed away.
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RE: Why knocking is so important.
August 19, 2014 at 11:31 am
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Kind of a misattribution. I've never personally given enough shits to to go through the rigamarole for any god (and thusly have never had any promises washed away). Others, unfortunately enough for them, have - they've told you so, and it didn't work for them. You are either incapable of, or refuse to address their claims with any consistency. If x happening is proof of god, then x not happening would be...what?
You argue against your own claim with your endless modifiers. They are excuses Drich, and you've been seen straight through.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Why knocking is so important.
August 19, 2014 at 12:44 pm
drippy Wrote:Only God is perfect, only God is Good.
We know the bible is accurate because in the bible their are promises. If one does XYZ he will get 123. I know the bible is accurate because the one perfect and good God has kept His end of the deal after i kept mine.
Let me get this straight:
At first, I know that the Bible is not infallible and there might be errors here and there.
The bible tells me about its god and makes promises (all of them quite vague and indeterminate) ==> I do what the bible tells me to (aka wish REALLY hard) ==> the promises are fulfilled ==> God exists and it's the one of the Bible, which therefore becomes accurate.
This is what is getting through of your position.
This system is flawed because you have no way of knowing if the result is real or just a figment of your imagination caused by wishful thinking and confirmation bias.
That is, you are (unconsciously) actually starting from the conclusion (god exists) because it's an idea you happen to like, and then you try to justify and rationalize your belief through scripture.
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Fact: Every time you eat a bite of cake, someone gets horsewhipped.
Facter: Every time two people kiss, an orphanage collapses.
Factest: Every time a baby is born, an innocent animal is severely mocked for its physical appearance. Don't be a pleasure hog. Your every smile is a dagger. Happiness is murder.
Vote "yes" on Proposition 1321. Think of some kids. Some kids."
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