(August 22, 2014 at 8:37 am)Drich Wrote: I don't agree with the term radical Islam. Radical from who pov? Those who have declared jihad as simply following what their holy book says for them to do. This is what the non luke warm Muslim looks like.

Radical from the point of view of moderate Muslims.

You see, you Christians aren't the only ones who cherry-pick their holy book. Muslims do the same, and the vast majority of them, like the vast majority of Christians, are not radicals.

(August 22, 2014 at 8:41 am)Drich Wrote: You can watch them actually cut the guys head off. If you so choose, Just google isis James foley beheading.

No I wont. Just hearing about it is enough.

(August 22, 2014 at 10:15 am)jesus_wept Wrote:

(August 22, 2014 at 10:04 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: You guys are weird.

I take it you wont be coming round my house for some toad in the hole then?

Or some spotted dick?

And this kind of shit, from religious maniacs of all faiths, is why so many of us have become anti-theists, not just happy go-lucky atheists. I'd go further and say, if you are an atheist and not an anti-theist, you're not paying attention.

Atrocities such as this, are why I positively despise the religious way of thinking.

Once irrationality is involved, there is no end to what horrors can be committed by ordinary people.

(August 22, 2014 at 9:10 am)Drich Wrote: Christianity changed because the warlord state was not biblically supported.

Wrong. Christianity changed because the Thirty Years' War, which showed that Protestants and Catholics were equally brutal in their willingness to kill another human being over matters of faith. The horrified Europeans seem to have garnered the real lesson, which is that religion run amok is deadly.

(August 22, 2014 at 10:32 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:

(August 22, 2014 at 9:10 am)Drich Wrote: Christianity changed because the warlord state was not biblically supported.

Wrong. Christianity changed because the Thirty Years' War, which showed that Protestants and Catholics were equally brutal in their willingness to kill another human being over matters of faith. The horrified Europeans seem to have garnered the real lesson, which is that religion run amok is deadly.

Indeed. Westphalia was certainly a turning point. A decent % of the European population was wiped out over those 30 years.

Stop trying to confuse the issue with facts!

Quote: I think militant Islam is much worse than militant Christianity,

In this century perhaps. The problem with shitheads like Drippy is that they secretly long for the good old days when they were as big a bunch of scumbags as the muslims...and for the very same reasons.

(August 22, 2014 at 11:54 am)Minimalist Wrote:

Quote: I think militant Islam is much worse than militant Christianity,

In this century perhaps. The problem with shitheads like Drippy is that they secretly long for the good old days when they were as big a bunch of scumbags as the muslims...and for the very same reasons.

Imagine you have two rapid dogs. One is in a cage, chaffing and struggling to get loose but contained, and the other is running free, biting people and killing them.

Someone says, "see, the rapid dog running loose is causing so much havoc and death while this one in the cage is so much better behaved."

That's only because the rabid dog in the cage is restrained.

Christianity has been muzzled and caged by civilization and modernity. Islam is running loose. That's the only difference.

(August 22, 2014 at 12:08 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: Christianity has been muzzled and caged by civilization and modernity. Islam is running loose. That's the only difference.

Excellent analogy.