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RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage:
August 30, 2014 at 1:24 pm
Don't you guys get that raising the min wage only cause everything to go up in price? Where do you think the money comes from to give the wage increase?
If everything goes up, then the raise you just got is meaningless.
This is the worst thing you can do.
Rather why not pay the people to work more? Only allow the government to tax the first 40 hours of every workers week, and then allow them to earn OT with out tax? This would negate the need for a second job and increase productivity at the one job. It gives the employee a 50% increases in pay! and it offers the company the production hours of another individual at 1/2 the cost once the 40 hour mark has been met.
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RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage:
August 30, 2014 at 1:33 pm
Yes, wealth simply slides it's scale up to continue suckling at the public teat, this is understood. That's gotta be addressed as well, don't you think?
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RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage:
August 30, 2014 at 1:36 pm
(August 30, 2014 at 1:24 pm)Drich Wrote: Don't you guys get that raising the min wage only cause everything to go up in price? Where do you think the money comes from to give the wage increase?
If everything goes up, then the raise you just got is meaningless.
This is the worst thing you can do.
Rather why not pay the people to work more? Only allow the government to tax the first 40 hours of every workers week, and then allow them to earn OT with out tax? This would negate the need for a second job and increase productivity at the one job. It gives the employee a 50% increases in pay! and it offers the company the production hours of another individual at 1/2 the cost once the 40 hour mark has been met.
No this is not how capitalism is supposed to work. You don't raise your prices to make up the gap when minimum wage is raised. Your company just makes less money. If your company can't survive....too bad that's capitalism.
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RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage:
August 30, 2014 at 1:43 pm
too bad that's -regulated- capitalism.
Gotta remember, some people think that capitalsim means robber barons and economic fiefdoms.
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RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage:
August 30, 2014 at 1:51 pm
(August 30, 2014 at 1:43 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Gotta remember, some people think that capitalsim means robber barons and economic fiefdoms. You also gotta remember the Great Depression. Was capitalism and the open market the cause of it or not?
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RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage:
August 30, 2014 at 1:55 pm
(This post was last modified: August 30, 2014 at 1:55 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
I think that we'd both agree that the depression was not a consequence of -well regulated- capitalism. As to the ultimate cause (or the level of culpability inherent in a system), I'm guessing that theories differ.
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RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage:
August 30, 2014 at 1:58 pm
I don't think we need to go as far as the great depression to figure out that unregulated capitalism is bad. Weren't the deregulations and throwing money at failing companies the reason we went through a recent recession?
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RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage:
August 30, 2014 at 2:00 pm
Yeah, we decided to transfer wealth from the people to the corporations. Brilliant.
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RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage:
August 30, 2014 at 2:08 pm
(August 30, 2014 at 1:58 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Weren't the deregulations and throwing money at failing companies the reason we went through a recent recession? From where I come from, the reason was unregulated privatization. Even with the newly established inspection department, our economy is far too damaged to be self-sufficient. We either go towards the EU or suffocate in the horrors of bankruptcy.
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RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage:
August 30, 2014 at 3:11 pm
(This post was last modified: August 30, 2014 at 3:12 pm by Dystopia.)
Another problem with raising minimum wage that I believe no one has mentioned yet is that it can cause people to be fired - You can force employers to pay a minimum, you can't force them to not fire someone - If they reach the conclusion that the new minimum salary is too much, they'll fire people - That's how it works
(August 30, 2014 at 2:08 pm)Baqal Wrote: (August 30, 2014 at 1:58 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Weren't the deregulations and throwing money at failing companies the reason we went through a recent recession? From where I come from, the reason was unregulated privatization. Even with the newly established inspection department, our economy is far too damaged to be self-sufficient. We either go towards the EU or suffocate in the horrors of bankruptcy.
The EU isn't any different from what you're going trough right now...
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