(September 7, 2014 at 1:33 am)whateverist Wrote: This reminds me of the story of the guy who played chess with a pidgin which proceeded to knock over the pieces, shit all over the board and claim victory.

Rikky you sure claim victory a lot. Wouldn't you think if you made the victory obvious enough that sometimes people would realize you'd won without your having to tell them?

$10 on "No."

(September 9, 2014 at 1:35 am)Riketto Wrote: I work on logic

As good an example of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" as I've ever seen.

(September 9, 2014 at 5:20 am)Tonus Wrote:

(September 9, 2014 at 1:35 am)Riketto Wrote: I work on logic

As good an example of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" as I've ever seen.

Considering that you haven't got a clue about the meaning of LOGIC
please let me explain it to you.
Suppose you are interested in someone.
What you do?
Maybe you would try to talk to that person manifesting your interest for him-her.
Lack of logic on the other hand would be to pretend that a relationship may take place between you and that person by doing absolutely nothing.
You got to put yourself in the shoes of that person.
Why that person would manifest to you when you are not prepared to do any effort in that sense.
That is how atheism works.
It works in an illogical way that is why it will not get anywhere soon.

(September 10, 2014 at 9:05 am)Riketto Wrote: Considering that you haven't got a clue about the meaning of LOGIC
please let me explain it to you.

What you explained isn't logic. It's IRONY.

Also, you are aware that what you are saying is that you can only believe that god exists after you believe that god exists. That's what it boils down to. Your imaginary friend does not suddenly materialize just because you started talking to him.

I'm assuming English isn't your first language, due to the grammar and misuse of words.

If you want a relationship wig another person you can see the other person. You can verify their existence. You can't do that with god.

(September 10, 2014 at 9:05 am)Riketto Wrote: Considering that you haven't got a clue about the meaning of LOGIC
please let me explain it to you.
Suppose you are interested in someone.
What you do?
Maybe you would try to talk to that person manifesting your interest for him-her.
Lack of logic on the other hand would be to pretend that a relationship may take place between you and that person by doing absolutely nothing.
You got to put yourself in the shoes of that person.
Why that person would manifest to you when you are not prepared to do any effort in that sense.
That is how atheism works.
It works in an illogical way that is why it will not get anywhere soon.

What would lead you to want a relationship with a person you don't know exists?

Is that how it works in your world? You decide to have a relationship with a person you have no knowledge of, no reason to believe actually exists, and then just started rolling with that? How many times have you ever gotten a girlfriend without knowing that the girl is real first?

(September 11, 2014 at 8:23 am)Esquilax Wrote: What would lead you to want a relationship with a person you don't know exists?

Is that how it works in your world? You decide to have a relationship with a person you have no knowledge of, no reason to believe actually exists, and then just started rolling with that? How many times have you ever gotten a girlfriend without knowing that the girl is real first?

Here is where you show how deep you are in the sea of dogmas.
You keep on pretending that if God ever exist it must be felt with your PHYSICAL senses (see, touch, smell and so on) but God is a spiritual entity so how the hell can you have physical evidence of something that is no physical?
Fail again guys.

(September 11, 2014 at 8:41 am)Riketto Wrote: Here is where you show how deep you are in the sea of dogmas.
You keep on pretending that if God ever exist it must be felt with your PHYSICAL senses (see, touch, smell and so on) but God is a spiritual entity so how the hell can you have physical evidence of something that is no physical?
Fail again guys.

No, actually my contention functions perfectly well even if we're talking about spiritual stuff because I actually don't feel god in my "soul" or whatever either. I have no inkling, at any conceivable level of my being, that there is, could be, or might be, a god.

In fact, I never used the word physical or the word senses. I just contended that you'd need some kind of indication that a person is real before you have a relationship with them, and that the reverse position that you're advocating is absurd. You are the one who mentioned physical stuff, which kind of hints at the fact that you have a rote set of responses that you're just ticking off one by one without actually listening to anybody.

Though if I had mentioned anything physical, I would respond by saying that there is no indication that anything non-physical exists either, putting you in the same boat there as you are with god. But since I didn't mention that, it's just another layer on the shit-cake that is your position.

But it's really nice to see just how smug you were in claiming victory there, over the strawman version of my argument you made by not really paying attention in your rush to get to Stock Woo-Woo Spiritual Argument Number 6: "You can't detect non-physical things, you gaiz!"

(September 11, 2014 at 9:28 am)Esquilax Wrote: You are the one who mentioned physical stuff, which kind of hints at the fact that you have a rote set of responses that you're just ticking off one by one without actually listening to anybody.

Well if that's what he's doing, can someone explain to him that he's holding the list SIDEWAYS?

(September 11, 2014 at 9:29 am)Tonus Wrote:

(September 11, 2014 at 9:28 am)Esquilax Wrote: You are the one who mentioned physical stuff, which kind of hints at the fact that you have a rote set of responses that you're just ticking off one by one without actually listening to anybody.

Well if that's what he's doing, can someone explain to him that he's holding the list SIDEWAYS?

He's dumb?