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RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism
September 11, 2014 at 2:19 pm
Whenever I read his posts:
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RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism
September 11, 2014 at 2:26 pm
(September 11, 2014 at 1:35 pm)Exian Wrote: Where would we be if stopped searching based on inconclusive evidence?
Church.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism
September 11, 2014 at 2:27 pm
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(September 11, 2014 at 1:29 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:The absolute nature of the claims made by scientific fundamentalists seem to depend upon current technology and the accumulation of observation, experience, and opinion formed by those deemed worthy of forming such an opinion.
Infinitely superior to some fucking moron who clasps an ancient book of bullshit as if it is "true."
I agree.
(September 11, 2014 at 2:26 pm)Stimbo Wrote: (September 11, 2014 at 1:35 pm)Exian Wrote: Where would we be if stopped searching based on inconclusive evidence?
Church.
So, would you say that atheism encourages that continued search for confirming evidence? What happens when there is questionable evidence?
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RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism
September 11, 2014 at 2:31 pm
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(September 11, 2014 at 12:55 pm)sswhateverlove Wrote: How are you so sure that this doesn't influence our genetic expression and has nothing to do with any "god" intelligence that exists? What's a "'god' intelligence" exactly and what does it do?
Quote:Why so confident?
I think you answered your own question. Confidence is a posteriori, and never a priori factors into my determination of truth. Honest interest, however, does.
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RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism
September 11, 2014 at 2:33 pm
(September 11, 2014 at 2:27 pm)sswhateverlove Wrote: (September 11, 2014 at 1:29 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Infinitely superior to some fucking moron who clasps an ancient book of bullshit as if it is "true."
I agree.
(September 11, 2014 at 2:26 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Church.
So, would you say that atheism encourages that continued search for confirming evidence? What happens when there is questionable evidence?
Atheism doesn't encourage shit. It's one belief about one question.
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RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism
September 11, 2014 at 2:36 pm
(September 11, 2014 at 2:27 pm)sswhateverlove Wrote: So, would you say that atheism encourages that continued search for confirming evidence?
No, intellectual honesty does that. Atheism is just disbelief in god claims.
Quote: What happens when there is questionable evidence?
You apportion your belief relative to the reliability of the evidence, and no further.
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RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism
September 11, 2014 at 2:36 pm
This thread makes me wanna troll.
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RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism
September 11, 2014 at 2:38 pm
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(September 11, 2014 at 2:27 pm)sswhateverlove Wrote: So, would you say that atheism encourages that continued search for confirming evidence? What happens when there is questionable evidence?
No. I'd say that atheism is the position of sitting and waiting for the theist to put compelling evidence on the table. All evidence is questionable. Whatever survives the questioning earns the status of becoming a data point. Everything else, however cherished, ends up in the rubbish tip. That's how knowledge advances.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism
September 11, 2014 at 2:41 pm
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(September 11, 2014 at 2:27 pm)sswhateverlove Wrote: So, would you say that atheism encourages that continued search for confirming evidence? What happens when there is questionable evidence?
Confirming evidence for what?
Atheism is one, and only one thing; a response to the claim that a god exists.
In general, there is no claim in atheism that requires evidence. Those that make the claim that a god exists, it is up to them to support their claim. They have the burden of proof.
The only thing that would convince the vast majority of atheists, is demonstrable evidence and reasoned argument to support the claim that a god exists.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism
September 11, 2014 at 3:48 pm
(This post was last modified: September 11, 2014 at 3:50 pm by Mudhammam.)
I think asking the theist to support their claim that God exists is jumping the gun quite a bit.
First the theist needs to define God, its composition, attributes, relationship with other objects, etc. If they want to postulate God as a theoretical entity, they need to offer some predictions by which we may weigh the usefulness of this concept.
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