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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
September 17, 2014 at 1:34 pm
Not this shit again, porco dio
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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
September 17, 2014 at 1:36 pm
(September 17, 2014 at 1:28 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Have you ever observed dark matter? I love observing DarkMatter 
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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
September 17, 2014 at 1:37 pm
(September 17, 2014 at 1:31 pm)Tonus Wrote: Just to reiterate, Lacy's report simply states that he is reasonably certain that the photo had not been tampered with, and that the "halo" was simply light. The supernatural is far from the only explanation for the appearance of a blob of light in a photo. Far more likely is that it's just that; a blob of light, which are pretty common in pictures even today. I doubt anyone would see a lens-flare effect in a photo today and think that it was anything but a trick of the light.
Then again, people used to think that rainbows were god's promise not to flood the world.
His conclusion was that there had to be a light there to strike the negative..doesn't get more clear than that.
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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
September 17, 2014 at 1:38 pm
(September 17, 2014 at 1:28 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Have you ever observed dark matter?
No, you don't get to dodge the question.
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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
September 17, 2014 at 1:39 pm
(September 17, 2014 at 1:37 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: His conclusion was that there had to be a light there to strike the negative..doesn't get more clear than that. Correct. And that's all that his conclusion was. That light struck the negative. Since it's pretty obvious that there were lights in the room, the more likely explanation is that the smudge over his head is from one of those lights.
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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
September 17, 2014 at 1:39 pm
(September 17, 2014 at 1:37 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: His conclusion was that there had to be a light there to strike the negative..doesn't get more clear than that. Is anyone disputing that? Doesn't seem to be the case.
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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
September 17, 2014 at 1:46 pm
(September 17, 2014 at 1:37 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: His conclusion was that there had to be a light there to strike the negative..doesn't get more clear than that.
And the only source of light you can possibly think of is magic?
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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
September 17, 2014 at 1:48 pm
(September 17, 2014 at 1:38 pm)Stimbo Wrote: (September 17, 2014 at 1:28 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Have you ever observed dark matter?
No, you don't get to dodge the question.
Since you won't answer I'll go ahead and assume the answer is no.
so in response to your question:
(September 17, 2014 at 1:25 pm)Stimbo Wrote: What credentials do I need to evaluate what you call evidence for whatever it is you're claiming? What are your credentials for presenting it? Or are you merely hiding behind those of your man? In which case my question stands: do we accept the truth of the claim purely on the credentials of the claimant? If so, then account for Hale's elf. At least we got a telescope out of it.
Since you have never observed "dark matter" you accept that it exists purely upon the credentials of the claimants, do you not?
So why should this be any different?
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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
September 17, 2014 at 1:55 pm
(September 16, 2014 at 8:41 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: (September 16, 2014 at 6:52 pm)Chas Wrote: I have read your posts and the article, so you get yet another thing wrong.
You make unsubstantiated assumptions; that won't gain you any credibility here.
If you read the article, then you would know that I'm not saying anything the Scientific American isn't, so what your saying is that the Scientific American is making unsubstantiated claims, correct?
No, they aren't claiming 'supernatural', only you are.
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(September 16, 2014 at 6:52 pm)Chas Wrote: But you haven't shown that it can't be explained by science, only that we haven't yet explained it.
Your conclusion that "therefore supernatural" is premature - it does not follow.
the placebo effect has been known about for past 110 or so years, I think it's safe to say it's unexplainable by science.
That does not follow. You don't understand what science is.
The placebo effect has been used as long as there have been humans. The history of the placebo effect is the history of pre-scientific medicine.
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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
September 17, 2014 at 1:59 pm
Is anyone surprised that Huggy trotted this out? Reminds me of my toddlers, upon discovering that they can lie to me -
"This is brilliant, why has no one thought of this before? I'm a genius!"
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