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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
September 19, 2014 at 12:56 pm
(September 19, 2014 at 12:55 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: (September 19, 2014 at 12:54 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: I would like to see maybe a small counter arguement but its not happening.
I and others have spent multiple threads giving you direct refutations of things you've claimed. You just ignore them or change the topic.
I don't change topic I just answer tge question, to my best ability.
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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
September 19, 2014 at 12:57 pm
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
September 19, 2014 at 12:57 pm
(September 19, 2014 at 12:55 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: The Bible predicted that men would spread lies to disprove the Bible and guess what, it is happening now. Well, the "disprove" part has certainly been proceeding apace.
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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
September 19, 2014 at 12:57 pm
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(September 19, 2014 at 12:56 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: (September 19, 2014 at 12:55 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: The Bible predicted that men would spread lies to disprove the Bible and guess what, it is happening now.
How is this guy still here?
So what you are saying is that I should be banned because I am defending my believes.
(September 19, 2014 at 12:57 pm)Tonus Wrote: (September 19, 2014 at 12:55 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: The Bible predicted that men would spread lies to disprove the Bible and guess what, it is happening now. Well, the "disprove" part has certainly been proceeding apace.
I know it has.
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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
September 19, 2014 at 1:00 pm
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(September 19, 2014 at 12:57 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: (September 19, 2014 at 12:56 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: How is this guy still here?
So what you are saying is that I should be banned because I am defending my believes.
No. We have theists that defend their beliefs all the time on here, many of them are very well-spoken and bring ethical or philosophical arguments to support their beliefs. While most of us find their conclusions unconvincing, for the vast majority of the time, they argue honestly, address the refutations of their points, and construct reasonable syllogisms. You are dishonest (maybe unintentionally) in your arguments. You flat out assert that nothing will change your mind. You lack even the most basic knowledge of what we bring up, and you lack the most basic knowledge of the evidence you claim supports you. You ignore points that we raise, and when challenged on your blatantly false assertions (remember that time you claimed there were 24000 manuscripts that were contemporary to the life of Jesus and proved the New Testament?), you literally just act like it never happened.
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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
September 19, 2014 at 1:00 pm
(September 19, 2014 at 12:55 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: The Bible predicted that men would spread lies to disprove the Bible and guess what, it is happening now.
Is it easier to make up lies and write them in a book or is it easier to make the whole universe lie ? Think about it...
It's not immoral to eat meat, abort a fetus or love someone of the same sex...I think that about covers it
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September 19, 2014 at 1:00 pm
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(September 19, 2014 at 12:54 pm)vodkafan Wrote: He thinks that we are like deaf so if he keeps repeating himself we will eventually get it and agree with him..
Being deaf has nothing to do with reading an online fourm.
(September 19, 2014 at 1:00 pm)vodkafan Wrote: (September 19, 2014 at 12:55 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: The Bible predicted that men would spread lies to disprove the Bible and guess what, it is happening now.
Is it easier to make up lies and write them in a book or is it easier to make the whole universe lie ? Think about it...
Can you explain your thought process.
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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
September 19, 2014 at 1:02 pm
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(September 19, 2014 at 12:55 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: The Bible predicted that men would spread lies to disprove the Bible and guess what, it is happening now.
Well, the Bible also predicted that no one would ever inhabit the city of Tyre again.
No one bothered to inform the people living there today.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
September 19, 2014 at 1:03 pm
(September 19, 2014 at 12:57 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: So what you are saying is that I should be banned because I am defending my believes.
No, but you should be banned if you continue to just baselessly deny everything said to you, and repeatedly assert yet more unjustified nonsense.
We have a thing called rule one here. It's that you need to actually converse, rather than go "nuh uh!" over and over.
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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
September 19, 2014 at 1:03 pm
(September 19, 2014 at 1:00 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: (September 19, 2014 at 12:57 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: So what you are saying is that I should be banned because I am defending my believes.
No. We have theists that defend their beliefs all the time on here, many of them are very well-spoken and bring ethical or philosophical arguments to support their beliefs. While most of us find their conclusions unconvincing, for the vast majority of the time, they argue honestly, address the refutations of their points, and construct reasonable syllogisms. You are dishonest (maybe unintentionally) in your arguments. You flat out assert that nothing will change your mind. You lack even the most basic knowledge of what we bring up, and you lack the most basic knowledge of the evidence you claim supports you. You ignore points that we raise, and when challenged on your blatantly false assertions (remember that time you claimed there were 24000 manuscripts that were contemporary to the life of Jesus and proved the New Testament?), you literally just act like it never happened.
I addressed the point about the 24000 thing I am willing to believe I made a mistake.
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