In all seriousness which satire deity is the one we don't believe in?

The Invisible Pink Unicorn? Or the Flying Spaghetti Monster?

I can't decide which one I disbelieve more.

(June 19, 2010 at 1:05 pm)AngelThMan Wrote:

AngelThMan Wrote:Atheist god: Richard Dawkins, of course. (He's at least Moses.)

Thor Wrote:You forgot Christopher Hitchens, Sam Harris and Michael Shermer.

The apostles!

It seems a certain scheme got rammed into your brain somehow to never leave. So if you belief Dawkins is god and Hitchens and Harris are apostles, than tell me, who's belief is it?

And if you would stop to ask me how I see this, you might find that:
I don't belief that Richard Dawkins is a god or has supernatural powers of any kind.
Harris and Hitchens are humans with argumented opinion, but not apostles of some divine message.

So, proclaiming that is just your belief, not mine.

You can have your own petty illogical beliefs for all I care, but you can't claim to know what I believe in contradiction to what I report on that I belief. So please engage in your folly that Dawkins is some god but be prepared to eat your own straw man.

(June 19, 2010 at 1:53 pm)Purple Rabbit Wrote:

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(June 19, 2010 at 1:05 pm)AngelThMan Wrote:

AngelThMan Wrote:Atheist god: Richard Dawkins, of course. (He's at least Moses.)

Thor Wrote:You forgot Christopher Hitchens, Sam Harris and Michael Shermer.

The apostles!

It seems a certain scheme got rammed into your brain somehow to never leave. So if you belief Dawkins is god and Hitchens and Harris are apostles, than tell me, who's belief is it?

And if you would stop to ask me how I see this, you might find that:
I don't belief that Richard Dawkins is a god or has supernatural powers of any kind.
Harris and Hitchens are humans with argumented opinion, but not apostles of some divine message.

So, proclaiming that is just your belief, not mine.

You can have your own petty illogical beliefs for all I care, but you can't claim to know what I believe in contradiction to what I report on that I belief. So please engage in your folly that Dawkins is some god but be prepared to eat your own straw man.

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Perhaps the problem is this: for AngelThMan truth is absolute, revealed truth. Truth that is contingent, based on experimental investigation and represents a 'best available model' simply doesn't qualify.

He therefore mistakes our atheism and belief in science as somehow equivalent to his belief in god and the bible. Atheism becomes a religion; Dawkins becomes a prophet.

Which is absurd, of course. But then he's demonstrated repeatedly that he isn't very smart, so what should we expect?

(June 19, 2010 at 1:05 pm)AngelThMan Wrote:

AngelThMan Wrote:Atheist god: Richard Dawkins, of course. (He's at least Moses.)

Thor Wrote:You forgot Christopher Hitchens, Sam Harris and Michael Shermer.

The apostles!

I would rather be an "apostle" to reason and knowledge than a sheep-like follower of superstition and nonsense.

(June 19, 2010 at 2:27 pm)Thor Wrote:

(June 19, 2010 at 1:05 pm)AngelThMan Wrote:

AngelThMan Wrote:Atheist god: Richard Dawkins, of course. (He's at least Moses.)

Thor Wrote:You forgot Christopher Hitchens, Sam Harris and Michael Shermer.

The apostles!

I would rather be an "apostle" to reason and knowledge than a sheep-like follower of superstition and nonsense.

The four knights of the Atheist apocalypse

Also i think a scientist simulated the original behaviour of the beginning of the world and created organic matter don't know if it was alive or not

(June 19, 2010 at 5:30 pm)Ashendant Wrote:

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(June 19, 2010 at 2:27 pm)Thor Wrote:

(June 19, 2010 at 1:05 pm)AngelThMan Wrote:

AngelThMan Wrote:Atheist god: Richard Dawkins, of course. (He's at least Moses.)

Thor Wrote:You forgot Christopher Hitchens, Sam Harris and Michael Shermer.

The apostles!

I would rather be an "apostle" to reason and knowledge than a sheep-like follower of superstition and nonsense.

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The four knights of the Atheist apocalypse

Also i think a scientist simulated the original behaviour of the beginning of the world and created organic matter don't know if it was alive or not

It wasn't, but that's a good example of progress in the theory of abiogenesis that Angel is ignoring

I don't know about you guys, but I didn't pay my membership fee this month, I think I might be at risk of losing my Atheism badge. I sent Dawkins an email, but his second in command got back to me and said if I don't make my payment by the 30th, I should just go ahead and start believing in God.

(June 19, 2010 at 1:15 pm)Welsh cake Wrote: In all seriousness which satire deity is the one we don't believe in?

The Invisible Pink Unicorn? Or the Flying Spaghetti Monster?

I can't decide which one I disbelieve more.

Burn the heretic!!!!!!!!

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(June 19, 2010 at 1:05 pm)AngelThMan Wrote:

AngelThMan Wrote:Atheist god: Richard Dawkins, of course. (He's at least Moses.)

Thor Wrote:You forgot Christopher Hitchens, Sam Harris and Michael Shermer.

The apostles!

So that is your reply to everything we've said.

No refutation of the true definition of religion?

(June 19, 2010 at 11:36 pm)tavarish Wrote: I don't know about you guys, but I didn't pay my membership fee this month, I think I might be at risk of losing my Atheism badge. I sent Dawkins an email, but his second in command got back to me and said if I don't make my payment by the 30th, I should just go ahead and start believing in God.

Errrmmmm

Who died and made Richard Dawkins god??

(June 19, 2010 at 2:22 pm)Caecilian Wrote: Perhaps the problem is this: for AngelThMan truth is absolute, revealed truth. Truth that is contingent, based on experimental investigation and represents a 'best available model' simply doesn't qualify.

You hit the nail on the head, Caecilian. Religious believers are not satisfied with anything less than absolute truth:
- They wanna know NOW who made this all, even if it's the wrong question.
- They wanna know NOW what is their purpose in life, even when they are free to decide on that themselves.
- They wanna know NOW who is gonna be the final judge they can rely on, even when judgement on human behaviour has no absolutes.
- They wanna know NOW who created life even when they stumble over million years old fossils in musea that tell the story of nature.

It's this childish anthropomorph urge to satisfy knowledge the cheap way that drives 'm away from real answers. It's what drives 'm into the arms of prophets, claimers of absolute truth, dogma and fabulation. And though they nowadays rely on science in every aspect of their daily life, they flat out deny the picture that emerges from science. They want free lunch and they want it NOW.