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The Christians Stole Most of Their Traditions from the Pagans
July 2, 2010 at 2:44 pm
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I don't know if you know, but the Christians stole just about everything from the Pagans.
1. Saturnalia. Saturnalia is a Pagan holiday that starts on December 17 and ends on December 25. The Christians decided they were going to make Christmas on that day, hopefully to get converts. And since Jesus' birthday isn't even in December...
2. Birthday's. Early Christians didn't celebrate birthdays. That was a Pagan thing.
3. Christmas things. What does a pine tree sitting in your living room have to do with Jesus? Nothing. The Christians stole that idea from the Pagans. They also stole the idea of candles in the window, putting decorations on the tree, and giving presents. (Though Santa Claus isn't a Pagan thing, the Christians stole that, too).
4. Easter things. At the beginning of spring, the Pagans would celebrate life buy coloring eggs, because eggs meant the start of a new life and a new season. And bunnies were just cute. And the Christians stole this, too.
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RE: The Christians Stole Most of Their Traditions from the Pagans
July 2, 2010 at 2:51 pm
This is not news in this neck of the woods.
It was a technique used to great success throughout the christan churhes history.
It continued into the conquest of the americas with a lot of aztec/inca traditions being absorbed into catholic life there.
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RE: The Christians Stole Most of Their Traditions from the Pagans
July 2, 2010 at 2:57 pm
(July 2, 2010 at 2:44 pm)chasm Wrote: I don't know if you know, but the Christians stole just about everything from the Pagans.
1. Saturnalia. Saturnalia is a Pagan holiday that starts on December 17 and ends on December 25. The Christians decided they were going to make Christmas on that day, hopefully to get converts. And since Jesus' birthday isn't even in December...
2. Birthday's. Early Christians didn't celebrate birthdays. That was a Pagan thing.
3. Christmas things. What does a pine tree sitting in your living room have to do with Jesus? Nothing. The Christians stole that idea from the Pagans. They also stole the idea of candles in the window, putting decorations on the tree, and giving presents. (Though Santa Claus isn't a Pagan thing, the Christians stole that, too).
4. Easter things. At the beginning of spring, the Pagans would celebrate life buy coloring eggs, because eggs meant the start of a new life and a new season. And bunnies were just cute. And the Christians stole this, too.
I would say borrowed.  But seriously, the fact that Christianity took some of the pagan things and "Christianized" them is not really new news, even to Christianity (maybe to some Christians it is new). It is actually one of the reasons why some Christians will not celebrate Christmas or Easter. I know some like that.
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RE: The Christians Stole Most of Their Traditions from the Pagans
July 2, 2010 at 3:07 pm
(July 2, 2010 at 2:57 pm)rjh4 Wrote: I would say borrowed. But seriously, the fact that Christianity took some of the pagan things and "Christianized" them is not really new news, even to Christianity (maybe to some Christians it is new). It is actually one of the reasons why some Christians will not celebrate Christmas or Easter. I know some like that.
It doesn't have to be "new news" to be discussed.
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RE: The Christians Stole Most of Their Traditions from the Pagans
July 2, 2010 at 3:17 pm
(July 2, 2010 at 3:07 pm)chasm Wrote: (July 2, 2010 at 2:57 pm)rjh4 Wrote: I would say borrowed. But seriously, the fact that Christianity took some of the pagan things and "Christianized" them is not really new news, even to Christianity (maybe to some Christians it is new). It is actually one of the reasons why some Christians will not celebrate Christmas or Easter. I know some like that.
It doesn't have to be "new news" to be discussed.
Very true.
These threads usually appear around christmas tme for the obvious reason.
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RE: The Christians Stole Most of Their Traditions from the Pagans
July 2, 2010 at 4:36 pm
Quote:I would say borrowed.
"Borrowed" is when you ask someone and have an intention of giving it back.
"Steal" is when you take things without permission and kill anyone who gets in your way.
I wonder which method was more popular with xtian thugs?
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RE: The Christians Stole Most of Their Traditions from the Pagans
July 2, 2010 at 4:56 pm
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(July 2, 2010 at 3:07 pm)chasm Wrote: It doesn't have to be "new news" to be discussed.
True. I was not trying to suppress discussion or anything else. I reread my post, however, and see how it could be interpreted as such. Apologies for that, Chasm.
(July 2, 2010 at 4:36 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:I would say borrowed.
"Borrowed" is when you ask someone and have an intention of giving it back.
"Steal" is when you take things without permission and kill anyone who gets in your way.
I wonder which method was more popular with xtian thugs?
Wow!! You took things like Christians choosing to celebrate the birth of Jesus on 12/25, pine trees, and certain things we do at Easter...and this leads to taking "things without permission and kill anyone who gets in your way". So Christians had to kill someone so they could celebrate Christmas on 12/25? Or somehow Christians needed someone's permission to use pine trees in their celebration? Did the first Christian's to use pine trees to celebrate Christmas steal them from their pagan neighbors? Come on, Min!
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RE: The Christians Stole Most of Their Traditions from the Pagans
July 2, 2010 at 5:43 pm
looks like deamon with horn is taken from pagans too
picture of pan.
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changing god of shepherds to a satanic bastard its not much of a "borrowing" i guess..
And I was wondering what could had they done to followers of this god?
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RE: The Christians Stole Most of Their Traditions from the Pagans
July 2, 2010 at 5:50 pm
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(July 2, 2010 at 4:56 pm)rjh4 Wrote: (July 2, 2010 at 3:07 pm)chasm Wrote: It doesn't have to be "new news" to be discussed.
True. I was not trying to suppress discussion or anything else. I reread my post, however, and see how it could be interpreted as such. Apologies for that, Chasm.
(July 2, 2010 at 4:36 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:I would say borrowed.
"Borrowed" is when you ask someone and have an intention of giving it back.
"Steal" is when you take things without permission and kill anyone who gets in your way.
I wonder which method was more popular with xtian thugs?
Wow!! You took things like Christians choosing to celebrate the birth of Jesus on 12/25, pine trees, and certain things we do at Easter...and this leads to taking "things without permission and kill anyone who gets in your way". So Christians had to kill someone so they could celebrate Christmas on 12/25? Or somehow Christians needed someone's permission to use pine trees in their celebration? Did the first Christian's to use pine trees to celebrate Christmas steal them from their pagan neighbors? Come on, Min!
It does. Have Christians already forgotten the Salem witch hunts?
(July 2, 2010 at 5:43 pm)annatar Wrote: looks like deamon with horn is taken from pagans too
picture of pan.
changing god of shepherds to a satanic bastard its not much of a "borrowing" i guess..
And I was wondering what could had they done to followers of this god?
Good one.
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RE: The Christians Stole Most of Their Traditions from the Pagans
July 2, 2010 at 6:25 pm
(July 2, 2010 at 4:56 pm)rjh4 Wrote: (July 2, 2010 at 3:07 pm)chasm Wrote: It doesn't have to be "new news" to be discussed.
True. I was not trying to suppress discussion or anything else. I reread my post, however, and see how it could be interpreted as such. Apologies for that, Chasm.
(July 2, 2010 at 4:36 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:I would say borrowed.
"Borrowed" is when you ask someone and have an intention of giving it back.
"Steal" is when you take things without permission and kill anyone who gets in your way.
I wonder which method was more popular with xtian thugs?
Wow!! You took things like Christians choosing to celebrate the birth of Jesus on 12/25, pine trees, and certain things we do at Easter...and this leads to taking "things without permission and kill anyone who gets in your way". So Christians had to kill someone so they could celebrate Christmas on 12/25? Or somehow Christians needed someone's permission to use pine trees in their celebration? Did the first Christian's to use pine trees to celebrate Christmas steal them from their pagan neighbors? Come on, Min!
It's so much deeper than that.
They used the power of the state to burn the libraries, steal property and kill people into believing jesus bullshit. Surely, even YOU can't believe that people wee moved to become xtians because they believed the fucking story? Even the ancients weren't that stupid.
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