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The End of the World
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The scriptures are his word because the scriptures say they are his word and the scriptures are true because God would never lie?
Come on man, it doesn't take a fucking 6 year old to see the bullshittery in that line of thinking.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson 
Maybe we can get an order of protection against this fucking god of G-C's?
 RE: The End of the World
December 3, 2014 at 5:15 pm
(This post was last modified: December 3, 2014 at 5:17 pm by Strider.)
Quote:This again is what I'm speaking of, people who believe they do not need forgiveness, just remember Jesus warned people about this type of thinking.You still haven't made the case of why I need forgiveness. "God says no man is good" is rubbish. I want a concrete example of what I did personally. There are warnings in the bible about several types of thinking because thinking critically must be discouraged lest the facade crumble. Quote:God says no man is good, why, because you will be judged by the perfection of God and the laws of Moses. Only one man ever accomplished a sinless life and He gave that sinless life so others could receive forgiveness. No one can live up to the law, read it and see how you've done.The perfection of god? The two do not belong in the same sentence. How could a being of perfection commit genocide? He regretted making humans so he blotted out their existence. Regret is not something a perfect being would feel because a perfect being would never make a mistake in the first place. That is the very essence of perfection. Quote:God ruling over you has nothing to do with living a better life, turning one's life over to God's guidance helps us to to so. Seeing yourself as righteous keeps you from seeing God.So acknowledging the good works you've done and seeing them as righteous is somehow wrong? Quote:God is completely loving, He allows you to choose to stay separated from Him for eternity, He want force you to live eternally with Him. It's within the power He has, it's just not within His love to force you.Live with him forever or burn in hell forever? Wow, what a choice from this perfect being. As for his purposes and his will, that's the typical Christian, mystical speak that says nothing.  (December 3, 2014 at 4:49 pm)Losty Wrote:(December 3, 2014 at 4:07 pm)Godschild Wrote: People that wind up in hell do so for unforgiven sin, they choose to live with there sin. Unforgiven sin last forever and that's why there's an eternal punishment. God gives us the choice to live with Him forever or not to live with Him forever, in eternity there are only two places to live. One for those who sought forgiveness through Christ will be in heaven and, one for those who do not seek forgiveness, those who believe they are already righteous in their own minds. Jesus warned those who thought that way. God has given you the free will to make yourself into what ever you desire, He allowed you to be born and gave you a soul as a guide through which the Holy Spirit works. If you ignore the Holy Spirit, who is God, then it's not His fault. Your correct He does not make mistakes, He gives you the ability to choose righteously, but is you that believes it's not important to live that way and in that type of thinking comes the mistake, from you. I'm not trying to upset you, I'm trying to show you how things are because of who God is. GC GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
 (December 3, 2014 at 5:06 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: The scriptures are his word because the scriptures say they are his word and the scriptures are true because God would never lie? ![[Image: evjdg.jpg]](https://i.imgflip.com/evjdg.jpg) via Imgflip Meme Maker
RE: The End of the World
December 3, 2014 at 5:22 pm
(This post was last modified: December 3, 2014 at 5:22 pm by FatAndFaithless.)
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson  (December 3, 2014 at 5:16 pm)Godschild Wrote:(December 3, 2014 at 4:49 pm)Losty Wrote: If I have wronged someone I will apologize and seek forgiveness from that person specifically. I will not seek forgiveness from god. If anyone should be apologizing it's him. I don't believe I am righteous and I see no need to be righteous. If god made me, then I am exactly what he made me to be. He doesn't make mistakes remember? Dude wake up. He didn't allow me to be born. If your god is real he forced me to be born. Knowing that given the free will and the lack of evidence I would choose not to believe. He would have already known my choice and yet he would have created me anyways. Don't forget he's the one who created hell for the "evil" people that he created. Again, exactly like my ex husband. I give you everything you want and need and all I ask in return is that you give me things you are incapable of giving, but you can't. Why do you want to make me hurt you? Don't you know I love you? Maybe my exhusband is god's long lost twin. 
I can't remember the last time I didn't mentally insert 'allegedly' in front of every claim G_C makes before flushing his bullshit and serenely moving on. The only creatures who get my attention and appreciation for chasing their own tails are dogs.
(December 3, 2014 at 5:05 pm)Losty Wrote:(December 3, 2014 at 5:00 pm)Godschild Wrote: I do not make you do anything, you choose to do so of your own accord. There is nothing wrong with what I said, just because you believe there is doesn't make it so. God did not create people to be a certain way, sin has corrupted all people, sin is our responsibility, giving us freedom from that sin was God's responsibility and He did so through Jesus. Those laws were for one thing, if you had studied scriptures you should have known what they are for. You've mentioned you have been to Baptist churches and they definitely teach the purpose of the laws. Since you seemed to have missed it, they were given to expose the sin in peoples lives, Paul taught this over and over. Only those who reject God will be judged by them and at the judgment no one will be able to argue before God, actually that's one thing people in hell will be doing, God doesn't deny your chance to argue, He has limited it to a certain place. GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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