Okay, I changed my mind, I'll ask you one question: where'd they find you?

(December 11, 2014 at 10:56 pm)Sionnach Wrote:

(December 11, 2014 at 10:52 pm)tonyintheLight Wrote: The evidence of God is to be found in the Holy Bible.

That is circular reasoning, thus illogical. The bible is no more evidence for the existence of god than a spider-man comic is evidence for the existence of spider-man.

(December 11, 2014 at 10:52 pm)tonyintheLight Wrote: Its infallible, inspired by God and without error.

It was written by man and therefore fallible. After all, there is no evidence to support the extraordinary claim that the men were inspired by anything more than their imaginations.

(December 11, 2014 at 10:52 pm)tonyintheLight Wrote: Its never been proven wrong BTW.

Of course it has. You have simply been reading the wrong book(s).

The prophecies of Jesus Christ can be found throughout the Old testament in books written hundreds, sometimes thousands of years before the first advent. Jesus Christ fulfilled those to the letter.

You are partly right, it was written by man BUT inspired by God(2Tim 3:16). The divine knowledge and wisdom of God is evidence found in the scriptures.

(December 11, 2014 at 11:06 pm)tonyintheLight Wrote: The prophecies of Jesus Christ can be found throughout the Old testament in books written hundreds, sometimes thousands of years before the first advent. Jesus Christ fulfilled those to the letter.

No matter how many times you make the erroneous claim, the bible is not and never will be evidence in support of your delusion.

(December 11, 2014 at 11:06 pm)tonyintheLight Wrote:

(December 11, 2014 at 10:56 pm)Sionnach Wrote: That is circular reasoning, thus illogical. The bible is no more evidence for the existence of god than a spider-man comic is evidence for the existence of spider-man.


It was written by man and therefore fallible. After all, there is no evidence to support the extraordinary claim that the men were inspired by anything more than their imaginations.


Of course it has. You have simply been reading the wrong book(s).

The prophecies of Jesus Christ can be found throughout the Old testament in books written hundreds, sometimes thousands of years before the first advent. Jesus Christ fulfilled those to the letter.

You are partly right, it was written by man BUT inspired by God(2Tim 3:16). The divine knowledge and wisdom of God is evidence found in the scriptures.

the OT was changed the original OT god had a wife there was many gods man changed it you fucked yourself when you mentioned that. Horus is the older jesus and i will give horus much more respect because well he is the original jesus is just a copy.

Those who say the bible was inspired by "god" had server mental issues. give me evidence of god <- just do that.

(December 11, 2014 at 10:52 pm)Beccs Wrote:

(December 11, 2014 at 10:47 pm)tonyintheLight Wrote: Hello, beccs.

One belief that Ive always held, is that for something to be created you need to have a creator. That scientific fact only debunks the theory of evolution from the get-go. Its a non starter.

Ive been clean for almost 2 years
(1John1:7b) and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

That's incorrect. If the law is that everything that exists needs a creator then that also applies to your deity. It's a copout when you use that argument and it applies to everything but your own deity is conveniently exempt from the rule.

Evolution is a scientific theory (note the word in the scientific context) that has held up to over 150 years of hostile attacks. It has not only stood up, butt has become the fundamental basis for most of our life sciences.

Creationism, on the other hand, is a claim with no supporting evidence at all.

Oh, and when you respond to me I would appreciate it if you wouldn't keep including quotes from your holy book.

I've mentioned I don't like being prosletysed to.

beccs, only God can create life out of nothing. All of creation points back to God. What you fail to grasp is that God is not restricted by natural laws. If He is able to sustain life on this planet and keep it spinning then I also believe He is able to do things which sometimes we find hard to grasp. God is sovereign, omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent.

If you can express your thoughts in a conversational tone and IN YOUR OWN WORDS you will find many people here willing and even happy to discuss matters with you. But, if you simply regurgitate scripture and prostrelitize as so many theists do you will simply be banned.

(December 11, 2014 at 11:10 pm)tonyintheLight Wrote:

(December 11, 2014 at 10:52 pm)Beccs Wrote: That's incorrect. If the law is that everything that exists needs a creator then that also applies to your deity. It's a copout when you use that argument and it applies to everything but your own deity is conveniently exempt from the rule.

Evolution is a scientific theory (note the word in the scientific context) that has held up to over 150 years of hostile attacks. It has not only stood up, butt has become the fundamental basis for most of our life sciences.

Creationism, on the other hand, is a claim with no supporting evidence at all.

Oh, and when you respond to me I would appreciate it if you wouldn't keep including quotes from your holy book.

I've mentioned I don't like being prosletysed to.

beccs, only God can create life out of nothing. All of creation points back to God. What you fail to grasp is that God is not restricted by natural laws. If He is able to sustain life on this planet and keep it spinning then I also believe He is able to do things which sometimes we find hard to grasp. God is sovereign, omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent.

are you stupid or ignorant or both? ill how you the building blocks of life.

this is the building blocks of life this is what makes us humans this is what make plants plants this is what makes animals animals.

And truly, anyone who can reject the literally tons of evidence that confirms evolution to be fact but accepts on faith that for which there is essentially zero evidence may not be worth talking to.

(December 11, 2014 at 11:03 pm)dyresand Wrote:

(December 11, 2014 at 11:00 pm)tonyintheLight Wrote: No, God created you. God knew you when you was in your mothers belly
(Jer 1:5a)Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee;

Again, nothing creates itself. Everything points back to the Lord. (Gen 1:1)

As for 'killing off' non believers, God gives every person an opportunity to be saved. God is not willing that any should perish(2Pet3:9)

No i am a biological being with parents that share the same not if features of my ancestors and my parents. God did not create me as it takes one man and one woman to create a human being. If god created me he would have created me with knowledge of his said existence. I am a person a being whose purpose in life is to have fun before i can no longer have fun. You see you have to prove to me with credible scientific fact that a human has a soul and that our consciousness isn't what we think it is.

God created you with free will. God did not create us to be mere robots. Hence you have the choice to believe in the Son of God or not. Free will.
You have a body,soul and a spirit because we are created in Gods Image(Gen 1:27)

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(December 11, 2014 at 11:14 pm)Tombochan Wrote: If you can express your thoughts in a conversational tone and IN YOUR OWN WORDS you will find many people here willing and even happy to discuss matters with you. But, if you simply regurgitate scripture and prostrelitize as so many theists do you will simply be banned.

I lean on Gods word as truth, so I often will use scripture to support my posts. My opinion is worth nothing, its God word which shines light. I dont feel im being offensive in anyway.

(December 11, 2014 at 11:20 pm)tonyintheLight Wrote: God created you with free will. God did not create us to be mere robots. Hence you have the choice to believe in the Son of God or not. Free will.
You have a body,soul and a spirit because we are created in Gods Image(Gen 1:27)

What did he create us for then? Amusement? Diversion?

There is a huge arrogance in this whole "in His image" business. We're so special that God created us to look just like him. That, my friend, is a monumentally conceited and egotistical notion to believe.

Anyway, I see you like posting copious amounts of bible verses, which is endemic among the most raving of the Christian population. Your verses mean nothing to us. We see the bible for what it is: a collection of works authored by mere mortals, a work - an admittedly colossal one - of fiction. You just as well quote Dr. Seuss.